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</html>";s:4:"text";s:22933:"Next, place the shower pan so that the drain body fits over the drain pipe. If the toilet is on the same wall as the end of the tub with the drain, then the likelihood of moving the toilet closer to the tub is less of a problem than if the tub drain was on the opposite end of the tub. <a href="https://www.hunker.com/12367767/how-to-move-a-bathtub-drain">How to Move a Bathtub Drain | Hunker</a> <a href="https://terrylove.com/forums/index.php?threads/shower-drain-relocate-which-is-harder.67833/">Shower drain relocate. Which is harder? | Terry Love ...</a> Move the tub out of the way, and use a drill with a 1/2-inch wood bit to cut out a hole; it should be a bit larger than the pipe's diameter. The pipe size on the floor drain will be too small to drain the shower, and you'll probably never get it to vent/drain correctly either. I am expanding my shower by 1 foot or so and want the drain in the center of my tiled shower floor, so I will move it approx 6 inchs. Don't be intimidated by busting out a little concrete. Step 1. I then rebuilt the remaining wall for the shower. This involves relocating the drainage as well as cold and hot water. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p0d3Ewd8Xk">Part 2. How to replace , install walk-in tile shower drain ...</a> The manufactured home is secured to the foundation with "tie-down straps" which are anchored into the ground with 4 to 5-foot augers. My sink, washer and dryer are across the room and drain into it via a pipe across the room that just dumps into the hole in the floor. <a href="https://www.artplumbingandac.com/plumbing/second-floor-bathroom-plumbing-guide/">How To Install Bathroom Plumbing On The Second Floor</a> Filled in the hole I made and poured the concrete leaving about a 6" diameter, 2" deep well around the drain pipe so the actual drain assembly would fit (the opening for the shower base sits right on the floor, so I need room around the drain to fit the drain assembly). This is normally a job for a construction crew and professional plumber, but some very skilled DIYers can . <a href="https://trustedpros.ca/forum/kitchen-and-bathroom/moving-toilet-drain-drilling-through-floor-joists">Moving Toilet drain drilling through floor joists</a> Showers. 4. In this video I am showing shower drain installation ( when using pan-liner and tiling shower floor) and p-trap installation. Upgrading or repairing a shower drain includes removing the shower pan and drain hub and cutting the subfloor to access the drain lines. Re: Leak from Second Floor Shower into First Floor Ceiling; Author: packy (MA) if you plugged the drain and had 3 inches of standing water in the base, the leak is not around the tile nor the drain nor pan. i believe in previous post you indicated the plumber removed the shower heads, capped the shower arms and turned water on. As a general rule, you will just be able to vent 2 fixtures on a toilet wet vent . This isn't a simple DIY job. Then you have to think about tiling and a new shower screen. The basic cost to Move a Drain Pipe is $757 - $929 per piping run in January 2022, but can vary significantly with site conditions and options. Put the bathtub in place and draw a circle where the new drainpipe will go. <a href="https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/plumbing/adding-2nd-floor-drain-existing-vent-pipe-426166.html">Adding 2nd floor drain to existing vent pipe</a> How to Vent A Shower Drain Diagram. I wouldn't use any 90's in the drain, maybe a few 45's if need be. Anyway, to replace pretty much all the supply lines, move the toilet, redo the drain (we are changing the tub to a custom tile shower), and redo all the vent lines it cost $1,500 total, exactly, labor and parts. Get fair costs for your SPECIFIC project requirements. At A-1 Basement Solutions, we help move your stuff, disconnect and move your Washer/Dryer and cover your belongings with plastic the day before the actual work happens. It involved moving the shower drain pipe . 3. We received 2 very different estimates reflecting 2 very different approaches. Place a pencil through the hole in the base and mark the floor so that it equals the size of the shower base's perimeter hole. None of the pipes were properly secured to studs or joists, they just kind of hung there. Installing a shower drain isn't usually difficult, but it always pays to be prepared for complications—every project is different. I then rebuilt the remaining wall for the shower. When building a shower on a wood floor such as on the second story of a house, a shower liner must be used to protect the wood beneath from any water that could cause mold, mildew, and even rot. Adding plywood to them would be a good idea. Research on this site indicated the easy way to do this is to use two 45 degree couplers, however the couplers add to the height of the moved pipe. The easiest way to do this is to start with the plumbing wall, since you know the whole thing has to come out, then move to the other two walls as you remove the pan. Once the stand is in place you will need to connect the hot and cold-water lines to the sink and attach the handles, stopper, and drain. 2nd Floor Shower Drain leak [ 1 Answers ] I noticed that a small amount of water had leaked from the fiberglass shower pan in the 2nd floor bath to the 1st floor ceiling. This isn't difficult, and is definately something that a DIYer can tackle. 1. I am looking at finishing my basement (myself) and would like to move the wall in a few feet to make a family room larger on the other side. I am finishing my 2nd floor cape into a master suite.I want to put in a whirlpool bath, no toilette or sink will be installed. The shower pan has to come out in order to expose the drain, and all pans are buried behind the finished walls. Make sure you cut an even 12" by 12" square piece, and that you only cut the portion that runs over the floor boards. I am also replacing rotten sub. Place a PVC elbow on the end of the drain pipe with one end pointing to the new drain area. To move the shower drain, there's really no way to avoid breaking up the concrete slab that contains and covers it. Step 2: Drill the New Drain Hole. Even if you are just moving your toilet a few inches to install a bigger tub or shower, the cost for doing this may be more than you think just to move the lines. This is because the P-trap under a shower isn't accessible. Move the base to the new location. Your Drain Solution Schluter® Systems KERDI-DRAIN-H is a floor drain that is made with a horizontal drain outlet that allows it to connect to the existing waste pipe and P-trap. Just rent a tool to cut or break the concrete and you're good to go. Moving the toilet is not a change to be taken lightly. See professionally prepared estimates for plumbing relocation work. The cost to move a toilet or sinks can be $2,500-$3,500 per fixture. Sever the shower drain in preparation for removing the shower pan. Put the bathtub in place and draw a circle where the new drainpipe will go. The average cost of moving kitchen plumbing more than three feet can range anywhere from $500-$1,000 per appliance. Move a tub drain left 2 inches in concrete..HELP. As it is now I can't move it because the drain will then be . Next, place the drain pipe gasket over the opening and tighten until the drain body and pipe are tightly connected. The task of installing a shower P-trap on your second floor really needs the expertise o professional assistance from professional technical help. A larger shower area can also make your bathroom more accessible to those with limited mobility or disabilities. Relocating shower drain [ 1 Answers ] I have what I hope to be a quick question about my shower drain height/depth below the floor. Make sure the shower base adheres to the floor. I removed a 28 inch tub with the drain coming out of my concrete slab at 14 inches on center, the new tub is 32 inches so now I need to go left 2 inches to 16" OC. Now take your Kerdi membrane and lay it out in the same orientation in which it will be in the shower. Sometimes moving a shower drain requires removing a concrete floor. Moving a bathtub includes relocating drainage and the hot and cold water. Move toilet 4 feet [ 11 Answers ] Hi, I have a second floor bathroom that is 6 feet wide. The first estimate was for $4,800. We need to move the shower drain 2" to the right (see picture below) while keeping the moved pipe at the same height (or lower if possible) than it is now. You also have to consider the drainage system and your shower system. 4. The toilet drain should be 3″, the sink drain is 1.5″, the shared sink drain/ toilet vent area should be 2″, and the vent going up should be 1.5″. But I would like to have more input on the subject for my own project. I am moving my shower drain to accommodate a larger shower pan that I am installing. Drainage also has to be moved. Set the shower base on the tub's subfloor and mark the location of its center drain with permanent marker. In either case the drain pipes will need to flow into a pump up basin or out to the sewer line. To install the sink, you would need to secure the sink stand to the floor. We have had 2 master plumbers out to give us an estimate for moving the shower drain pipe. If I were to bump out the wall on the left, would it be possible to run a shower drain through the joists for a walk-in shower? Don't be intimidated by busting out a little concrete. The best time to replace your P-trap is when you're renovating your bathroom. The most critical aspect of enlarging your shower is replacing the shower pan, or the raised floor that collects all the water and ensures that it flows down into the drain. If you can get under the shower, cut off the entire P-trap with a hacksaw and glue a cap onto the waste line. my question is can I just tie into the vent pipe with the drain. Typically, all drains in a bathroom empty into the toilet waste line. Snap the shower drain screen into place and check your work for leaks. Since that water has nowhere to go, move it in the right direction: down a drainpipe and into the sewer main. this question has been addressed before. Author: North Carolina Plumber (NC) 1. Can I move a shower drain? Remove the drain plug, allowing all water to drain, If you still experience NO leaks then the shower pan and or the drain to shower floor connection should be OK. 9. Trying to remove and replace cast iron drains in my second floor bathroom, and there appears to be either no wood sub-floor, or somehow some of it removed, and mortar or concrete poured under and all over it. Use the measurement you wrote down for the center of the drain from the side wall. Measure the distance from the old tub drain to the new shower drain. 3. See professionally prepared estimates for drain line re-routing work. The drain system must slope from the shower, or other plumbing fixture, down to the home's septic tank or sewer system. It's a messy job. The good news is, there is a solution, which allows a drain to be installed in a shower without having to move the existing drain. ABS or PVC drainpipe (adapters are available for 1-1/2-in. 2. Going from a tub to a shower is not often an easy process since it is a violation of code to run a 2″ line, which is required by the new shower, into a 1 ½" existing tub drain. http://www.AsktheBuilder.com founder, Tim Carter, continues to explain various tricks that help when moving a basement shower drain. Allow for adequate slope on your drains. Concrete subfloor, second floor bathroom - need to remove drain I'm confused and wondering if anyone's seen this before. We aren't sure if we should have two separate valves or use a Moen 3-function valve. My current p trap is 2.5 inches away from the wall. A laundry room floor drain is the escape route for the water. I removed a fiberglass shower/bath combo and I wish to replace it with a TileRedi shower pan. Now I will still have an issue with the drain for the tub since the drain is in the centre of it. The task of installing a shower P-trap on your second floor really needs the expertise o professional assistance from professional technical help. For showers that have a bench built in, placing the drain under the bench will keep it out of the way. Wait the alloted time (5-10) min, If still NO leaks move to the next step. Step 6. I . no leaks were found. Insert the bottom of the twist plug into the shower drain as far as it will go. Step 2: Drill the New Drain Hole. 8. Moving a shower involves changing pipes in the wall and under the floor. Putting the Pan in Place. Plumbing can be a significant cost factor in a remodel when a bathroom floor plan is altered. Barrier - using linear drains removes the 'step over the curb' in a traditional shower, creating a "barrier free" entrance to your shower. It is a 3 1/2 inch OD pvc pipe. The metal frame underneath the dwelling is suspended in the air by a set of blocks. We have a problem with the shower drain in our master bath on the second floor smelling 24 hours a day. 42x60 right drain. According to Arch Toolbox, the minimum slope for waste drains depends on the diameter of the pipe and ranges from a fall of 1/16 to 1/4 inches per every 1 foot of linear drainpipe.On a sink drain, you need at least a 2-inch pipe; a shower also requires a 2-inch drainpipe, but the toilet needs a larger 3-inch or 4-inch drainpipe. There is a shower stall on the 2nd floor that has cerimic tile on the walls and floor. The pipe size on the floor drain will be too small to drain the shower, and you'll probably never get it to vent/drain correctly either. http://www.tilemasterga.com In this video I am showing shower drain installation ( when using pan-liner and tiling shower floor) and p-trap installation. figuring out your drain waste vent lines dummies the drainpipes collect the water from sinks showers tubs and appliances the waste pipes remove water and material from the toilet the vent pipes remove or exhaust sewer gases and allow air to enter the system so that the wastewater flows freely the drainpipes are made of cast iron galvanized pipe copper or . Main stack is also bottom right corner. Moving a shower is a little tricky and expensive since it involves moving the pipes in the wall and the floor. Move the drain. Move the tub out of the way, and use a drill with a 1/2-inch wood bit to cut out a hole; it should be a bit larger than the pipe's diameter. 8. Need to move the bathtub? You have to make sure you have the perfect pitch toward the drain. A bathroom remodel gives you a chance to update your fixtures, change the bathroom configuration or expand the floor space. Measure from the side wall to the center of the new drain location. It doesn't matter if the shower is being used or not, the smell never gets better, its there all the time. Re: new tub - need to move drain - conflicting advice. Mobile homes are generally set 2 to 4 feet above a concrete foundation. Take the 6" brass nipple in hand, SLOWLY open the . See typical tasks and time to move a drain pipe, along with per unit costs and material requirements. 3. The next thing to do is to lay the inlet end of your shower trap, the one that has a long straight part, right into your shower drain. When you add up the costs, moving a shower can be expensive. Cost of Moving Plumbing Fixtures. The next thing to do is to lay the inlet end of your shower trap, the one that has a long straight part, right into your shower drain. For a shower floor to sit flush with the rest of the bathroom, the framing under the shower pan has to be lowered, or the floor outside the shower has to be raised. *If this information had any value, please consider contribute into my son's recovery from his injuries and blindness, thank you*https://www.gofundme.com/f/2. Three-Piece Drain. The basic cost to Move Plumbing is $780 - $956 per piping run in January 2022, but can vary significantly with site conditions and options. If you are planning to put a shower in a basement, then you will either need to cut out a section of the concrete floor for running the drain pipes or build an elevated floor to allow the drain pipes to sit underneath it. The shower installation is about 10 year old. Place tape over the existing shower drain. To begin, start by cutting the subfloor around the drain with an electric saw. In the photo above they are using an infinity drain which is the most difficult on the second floor. If you have a leaky shower drain and don't want to cut open a finished ceiling to get at it from below, consider using a special drain such as the WingTite Drain, which can be installed from above if the drain is in a plastic or fiberglass shower base.This drain has an O-ring that seals to a typical 2-in. I have a floor drain in my laundry room right beside a wall. Attach a . So this would require a move of about 4 feet. The second floor poses a problem because of the floor joists. Marking the center of your drain. Second floor shower drain smells 24 hours a day. Turn the wing nut located on the top of the twist plug until it is hand tight. the problem is, the spec drawing shows the center of the drain to be 6 inches away from the edge. Sketch a plan of the new drain location on a sheet of newsprint. But if needed, it can be accomplished with substantial plumbing work and a great deal of peripheral work, such as opening up a floor or ceiling, rerouting pipes and drain flange, and re-installing the toilet and other fixtures. This requires a lot of drilling and a precise hand to secure it to the floor. Only show this user. So it's likely you will need to do some carpentry and plumbing work to move the location of the drain before installing the shower pan. This is a 2" cast iron basement floor drain that I have cut off, installed a no hub coupling, and I am ready to. I want to move toilet to the right side wall. Remove the base. These 5 tips will help the project go smoothly. This isn't difficult, and is definately something that a DIYer can tackle. Hello Plumbers.Im a homeowner redoing my bathroom and am looking for advice on moving my second floor shower drain. We want to install a hand-held shower close to the bench. 1. 2. 2. If we cannot move the shower drain pipe then we will be forced into using a recirculating vent hood. It's much easier to just build a dry-pack pan around the existing drain location. The three main fixtures -- sink, tub/shower and commode -- all connect . This isn't a simple DIY job. Can a toilet shower and sink share a vent? Much as your shower drain collects water at a central point and sends it down and away, so too can a laundry room with a drain installed at the lowest point in the floor. Measure 20″ from what will be the back of the shower and make a mark, then measure 26″ from what will be the side and make another mark. If they are going to move the drain, that could affect the slope of the drain lines, the depth of the trap, how well the vent line works. The tub P-trap is in the top right corner of the picture - toilet drain is in the bottom right corner. The correct way to connect the tub drain to the trap would be to run it thru the floor joists. Most French Drains are installed in one day, but the preparation that you have to go through will probably involve days or even weeks. You just have to get disciplined to use it. You'll have to move the drains and vents for the bath. Most contractors don't want to schedule the plumber in twice - once to install the drain and later to install the liner after the preslope has been installed, with the tiling guy in there in before and after. A simple toggle shut off that gets used whenever the washer isn't being used is a good idea. Rearranging the layout of the sink, shower, or toilet (or all three) will most likely double, and in some cases triple, your plumbing costs, says Nick Schiffer, owner of NS Builders. You are going to have to remove at least one wall and, hopefully, only a small portion of the floor. Step 3 - Measure From the Old Drain to the New Drain. leaking 2nd floor shower; Author: Anonymous User . The location of the leak seems directly from the drainage area. and 2-in. The price . Toilet is on left side wall and looks to be a foot away from wall. Get fair costs for your SPECIFIC project requirements. The following three drains are point drains that are intended for specific circumstances. It has steam feature but is not used often. 1) Toilet and Sink : The toilet is vented through the sink drain. They do however require the shower floor to be sloped in only one direction toward the drain, unlike the centre drain, which requires the floor to slope in four different ways. Changing an existing shower into a bathtub is simple since the 2″ line is in place and readily accessible a 1 ½ line for the tub can feed into it. Keep in mind that the further away from its original position you move your appliance, the more it will cost. I think what I "can" do is build a "riser" for the tub and then run the drain above the floor joist to where the drain is and thus avoid cutting into any joists at all. Make a mark on the exposed floor joist at the location with a pencil. Plywood or plank subfloor is fastened to the floor joists . The simple answer is yes, you can put a toilet where a shower was, but the move doesn't come without its issues. copper pipe). Position the drain as far away from the shower door as possible, and extend the pan's waterproofing membrane at least 4 inches up adjacent walls and at least a foot beyond the pan . Place a PVC elbow on the end of the drain pipe with one end pointing to the new drain area. The average cost of moving plumbing varies depending on how far you're moving it, the type of appliance and its size. It makes sense to have a drain in the tray. Step 6. Filled in the hole I made and poured the concrete leaving about a 6" diameter, 2" deep well around the drain pipe so the actual drain assembly would fit (the opening for the shower base sits right on the floor, so I need room around the drain to fit the drain assembly). 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