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The talk that he gave at Stanford, he holds up, towards the beginning of it, the resume of an individual who had just joined Sequoia Capital that week. He says, “It's the stability that comes with generational transfer. Disney earns about two dollars in parks and merchandise revenue for every one dollar earned from films (discussed on our Disney, Plus episode). Is this the first example? We had to understand the nature of the application and understand the size of the market. Ben: No, “But you gotta crawl before you can walk,” as they say. You have other executives on there from time to time but…. • The Risk: Sequoia could alienate some of its existing investors, many of which already follow a more diversified investment strategy. For one, it was so small that the individuals who are doing it, all of them, in California, they would meet once a month at the Mark Hopkins Hotel in San Francisco at a regular table and they would sit around and talk about the various companies that they were working on. Don didn’t understand software. I thought it was a $2 million initial investment or did he do a follow on for $2 million? I would say Sequoia has been surgically good at capturing the value that they create in the world with a few misses. Ben: Which every good venture capitalist should have when out raising their first fund is who is going to be your first investment. Ultimately though, as Trip talked about, Markkula makes a brilliant decision and says, “I don't actually want to run this thing day-to-day. We admit it, we screwed up on our first episode covering YouTube: there’s no way this deal was a “C”. Thanks to our sponsors Silicon Valley Bank. Obviously, you’re not in Don’s head. Last month, Sequoia Capital China took a majority stake in Alexandre Mattiussi’s 10-year-old fashion brand Ami Paris. Ben: Yeah, I know what I'm doing this weekend. Five, must have the potential for Sequoia to make $100 million on the investment. On the back of this, Apple raises their first venture capital around of just over $500,000. Let's do it. Ben: Yup. Most venture firms, most founders of venture firms don't have the ability to do this. They're using semiconductors to make another product physically manufacture it, like it is…, David: Yeah, they're setting up manufacturing…. He sits down with the folks there, he gives them the pitch, and they say, “I see that you didn't go to Harvard Business School,” and he says, “Right. It turns out, Don makes its first investment in indeed quite a giant market enabled by semiconductors, but a little off the beaten path and certainly different than the defense contractors that he started his career selling to, and that was Atari. In 1979, Gordon Russell joins Don. Related to that, you can only do that at the early stages. In 1981, we mentioned Pierre LeMond earlier, Don convinces Pierre, already had an amazing storied career as a chip designer and architect at Fairchild and at National, to come in and join him at Sequoia as a partner and Pierre has an amazing run. I assume he was doing this while he was working with companies, too. He was COO and chairman of Zappos that had just been acquired for over $1 billion, but always hustling. All that said, the army and Don still don't really mix. That is what true early stage venture is. I do think in just pouring over the hours and hours of reading that we found about Don and really learning about the history of this firm, Don played a very active role in building a lot of companies that they invested in and deserves a lot of the credit for that. Hard to do in practice but a really perfect way to frame it. If you think a lot of the entrepreneurs who are starting companies like the traitorous eight, it was all science. Ben: acquiredfm@gmail.com if anybody wants to know. He was a real estate developer who developed an interest in this sort of thing. Ben: That’s just kind of amazing, he printed out Alfred’s resume and brought it to his talk. I want to throw in a few great quotes from Don here. There is an alternative view that you could take it at that says, capital is capital and 99% of the value or maybe 110% of the value that comes from receiving investment from a venture capital firm is the capital itself and everything else is either hullabaloo or value detraction. So much easier said than done. You need LPs who are were willing to sign up for an essentially decades to multiple decades long time horizon, because when there is true opportunity, the lion’s share of the value gets built at the end. It is frankly absolutely unbelievable that a single firm can be responsible for helping to create so much of our modern economy. We could really accelerate things if we invested in these companies and help them build themselves, because the bigger they get and the faster they get bigger, the more sales they’re going to have, the more sales we're going to have.”. Estimated Current Contribution to Market Cap: $126.4 billion. The other lesson that they take from Apple is what Don and Sequoia call an aircraft carrier approach that they start taking to these big markets. Startups aren't normal businesses at all. David: Yeah, brain drain. Charlie at National, he offshores chip production to Asia. Most VCs would look at this team and be like, “We’re not going to finance this team,” but he cares about the market and the application. Ben: Think about the tenacity. I don't care of Genghis Khan is running the company. Capital Group, they'd seen this and they actually funded AMD. Think about the run that Amazon’s had or even Apple’s had in the last 10 years in their market cap relative to the first 10–20 years of the company. Ben: All right, so listeners, the way that we want to do this section on this unique episode is what would the world be without Sequoia. I love this place.”. The successful ones, the value that Sequoia and their limited partners captured from the value that was created at those companies. We recognize this analysis is flawed (cashflow/profit multiples are better, at least for mature companies), but given the opacity of most companies’ business unit reporting, this was the only way to apply a consistent and straightforward approach to each deal. Even more so, it's not about the person, but it's about Sequoia. For Don, there weren't a group of investors who were used to putting money in this risk-return profile. It's not all about me all the time.”. He really pioneered this approach that large pools of capital, especially tax-exempt nonprofit pools of capital, should put a lot of their assets in alternative investments where they can get extremely high returns over a long time horizon. He's not letting this one go. I try for this section to kind of catalog and crystallize what are the elements of, if you have to distill the Sequoia playbook from this history and from Don’s experience? I don't think there would have been as many chances taken and opportunities given to the “Ho Chi Minhs” out there that Sequoia was willing the fund. Charlie Sprock, as CEO, he does a couple really interesting things. One thing that is often forgotten these days because it's just a name, and it reminds me of the quote about fishes and water where you ask a fish, “How’s the water?” The fish goes, “What’s water?” That is that Silicon Valley is called Silicon Valley because of silicon even though it is mostly software these days and the internet. Four, must have high gross margin ability—that has also changed. Don invests $600,000 in the company in 1975. It's so funny how we joke here, “You’re raising money for a new startup,” and even today, in 2019, the answer for how much capital you need always comes back to somewhere between $1-$3 million to get off the ground and that was the case even back then. For two, none of them actually came from technology, or a startup, or company background. I cannot recommend highly enough, anyone, certainly if you work or are interested in venture, but even if you're not, if you're just interested in technology and startups, go do two things: (1) watch the Youtube video of a talk that Don gave at the GSB at Stanford in 2010 and (2) read this wonderful oral history that Berkeley did as part of the history department there with Don. Ben: Yeah. People are having to go back to the east coast to Fairchild to finance their companies. I hope things go more in that direction. Well, I think of course they're going to relate it and like all investing, it is early stage investing. Oops! One sector consists of exploration companies that undertake the discovery and evaluation of new ore bodies and the other consists of larger mining companies that are … gets paid out to creators, and YouTube’s hosting and bandwidth costs are significant. Regardless of whether they're private or public. You ⦠Arthur Rock organized a syndicate that had backed Intel with equity. Besides, in 2019 the fund was active. David: The venture world hadn’t woken up to that just yet. Companies big and small are investing at record levels to collect, categorize, stream, integrate, analyze and act upon data. Don has this great quote. Sequoia Capital 's most notable exits include Reddit, Zoom, and Apple. Our philosophy is a set of core principles focused on doing what is right for our clients. That said, while YouTube as the world’s second-highest-traffic search engine (second-only to their parent company!) We considered all historical acquisitions — not just technology companies — but may have overlooked some in areas that we know less well. There are upsides and downsides there. One of them was the IT administrator for GSB and one I think was elsewhere on the campus and networking was just becoming a thing and they were married. Alongside all these investments that they’re making, the funds steadily grow in size from that first fund of $3 million-$5 million. David: Yeah, I believe his first CEO gig was taking over for Charlie as CEO of National. David: I think that's true and certainly they helped accelerate it more quickly, but at a minimum, Instagram should have waited longer and then had a WhatsApp-like acquisition at a bare minimum. At first, they put him in charge of selling Fairchild semiconductors to defense firms back in southern California. Unlike Sequoia's venture-capital investments, Heritage has a more diversified investment approach, with only a handful of the types of investments Sequoia is known for. Who knows what the corporate structure of the company is these days? I’m definitely going to change that, because Amazon does so many things great, but music is not one of them. Of course, much of this still exists today. When Sequoia was started, the positioning to LPs was, “We’re going to deliver vastly superior returns to anything else you can get out there.” Well, we’ll about it in greeting, but I think that proved, too. We also took a conservative approach, using only the (massive) $10.8b in annual revenue from the company’s “Agency Revenues” segment as Booking.com’s contribution — there is likely more revenue in other segments that’s also attributable to Booking.com, though we can’t be sure how much. They had a really tough time getting it financed, and so how it ended up being organized was as the west coast semiconductor division of an east coast company called Fairchild Camera and Instrument Corporation, so Fairchild was located back on Long Island in New York, and they owned the company. Doug talks about this in an interview with Dan Primack. How effective were they at actually capturing that value that they created? That's the LP aspect. David: It's right at this moment in time that a—quite a maverick as one might say—individual, comes on the scene and basically single-handedly, writes the playbook of what modern venture capital and alongside it, what a modern startup would look like and that man's name is Don Valentine. David: Yeah. A man named Sherman Fairchild at this point in time who lived in Long Island was the largest shareholder in IBM because his father had helped finance Tom Watson in forming IBM many years earlier. That ethos ends up informing everything he does and everything [...] capitalist will see. We’ll link, in the show notes, to this amazing photo. David: Well, I don't know. Acquired dives into the history behind storied venture firm Sequoia Capital and its legendary founder, Don Valentine. I can continue making investments or I cannot. They approached him with an offer, “How about you do this full time? It was the very first independent Sequoia Capital investment. Whether that's in their careers as investors or their career as operators, but people who really know what they're doing, that can help the companies make good decisions and recruit great management teams around them. We sent this note to Sequoia founders and CEOs to provide guidance on how to ensure the health of their businesses while dealing with potential consequences of the spreading effects of the coronavirus. The stability is part of why we've had the same limited partners for almost 40 years.” When Don was saying this, now almost 50 years. Typically, I try and throw out some stats in this section about why the company that we're covering on this episode is important. If we made an assumption not disclosed by the parent company, we linked to the source of the reported assumption. We need to help invest to build the ecosystem around our products. We can tell that that person who can do that, explain it a very simple way, is somebody we want to be in business with.” Don has realized that, “The only competitive advantage that startups have is focus, and speed, and stealth. Oftentimes, that's not folks who are coming from Harvard business school. That’s a solid Softbank size around today. Ben: Just reflecting on how crazy it is that this asset class exists, we all take for granted that there’s early-stage fundraising. There's a great interview with Andy Rachleff and Patrick O'Shaughnessy on them, Invest Like the Best, where Andy talks about how. You need a multibillion dollar, ideally 10 plus billion dollar market, because again, they're aiming for each of their investments to make 20X plus. You have to build the firm. Ben: Yeah, I think there's a quote about Moritz which is, he had the journalist instinct to go for the jugular and not hold back. Through that, he gets to know a lot of the shareholders of National. If you think about what he's saying, it maps pretty exactly to the core functions of a venture capital firm. “Our view has always been preferably, give us a big technical problem, give us a big market when that technical problem is solved, so we can sell lots and lots and lots of stuff. Normally when we’re covering a company we say, “Hey Shopify enabled $250 billion of sales,” or something like that, I can’t remember the number, last year. If you want to listen and become a limited partner, you can get started with a 7-day free trial and listen right here in the podcast player of your choice by clicking the link in the show notes or going to glow.fm/acquired. What you're doing isn’t investing and you’re not a person that looks like an investor. weren’t down ~20% due to COVID-19 fears when we did the analysis. Don: …even back in the 60s, a couple million back then was a lot more in today's dollars, but you had to do all this really hard stuff. This is the first very successful, not the first in the industry but the first successful generational transfer at Sequoia. To really do this at the early stages, you got to dedicate the time and effort. Sequoia is a specialist infrastructure debt investment management company. David: Indeed. He goes down and he makes this pitch about, “Hey, I think I can at least double 10% IRR and if you look at my personal track record, it's much more than that,” and indeed, Sequoia’s first few funds would be well, well above 10% IRR, many multiples above that. They were scientists by and large, and Don’s super power which he was able to augment these companies and these teams with folks like himself who are able to do sales and marketing, and go to market, and then Sequoia could help augment with finance, accounting, and everything around that, and the outsourcing of all that. The alignment is around building long-term big great companies. Capital Group, they had been seeing what was starting to happen up in the new proto Silicon Valley. David: Well, what we said earlier about management can be augmented is, management, of course, can also be replaced. You are helping make the decisions, build the company, and build the culture that is going to enable a super long-term great company to be built like that. He starts taking part time courses at the business school at UCLA, focused on sales and marketing, because he was really interested in, of course sales, which is his job, but also the marketing component like, “Who are we selling to and why?” He has a great quote, he says, “Where is the decision making process in a great company? This is sort of the person we're talking about that would prompt people—as brilliant as he was and as amazing as the innovation that was happening at Shockley—would be prompted to maybe leave and do something rash. He said to us something that always stick with me. He was interested in technology, and Sherman agreed to set this up as a division of his camera and instrument corporation. David: Don starts leading the earnings calls. But what was interesting is when they left, and they started Fairchild, it wasn't actually a startup in the way that we think about it today; it wasn't an independent company. Sequoia didn’t even have an option in participating in that upside unless they were going to block the sale. Even when you pop up that one level, it's not, “Hi I’m Don. It's this really hard to get through thousand-page book that I will never have a prayer of actually reading. It's interesting. We learned at Wave, which was that even with all that raising a first time fund, is really freaking hard. A deep dive into Sequoia Capitalâs modus operandi on how they invest, where, and why. This group of employees goes on to be known as the traitorous eight. Not like hadn’t gone to college, like hadn't finished grade school? I think probably also inspired by this lesson. If you're all over the place, you're not going to be able to execute on those things.” That's still true today. Ben: To be clear, investor in this sense was generally a public market investor or perhaps some other alternative investment, but not investing in startups. They get to know Don and they learn from Don about all this private investing he's doing. If you have any examples you think we missed ping us on. I think this might be the last model. David: We didn’t ask Trip that directly in the EA episode but I think he probably would have said yes, right? I'm extremely public and loud and writing up ads all the time and doing all these… If you want to talk about the investment company, let's talk about the investment company and not Sequoia, and I happen to be a part of that. David: Good point. He comes from Capital Group, comes in and joins Sequoia and he built Sequoia's healthcare and biotech investing practice. They ask questions and then they just listen to the answers. David: Yeah, which is crazy. One of these lessons that Don has learned is that sometimes the most amazing companies like Apple, like Cisco, they look crazy. Why did these eight folks leave Shockley and start their own company? This Sequoia Guide covers strategies that can help you figure out the right price for your product—and end up with happier customers and more profit in the process. David: Certainly, knowing Sequoia today, no. Three, must be in advanced technology. This really becomes Don’s life passion. It is a very different frame of mind. It excludes many companies both successful and unsuccessful. All right, should we move on to value creation and value capture? Who's going to buy the stuff? Venture capital investments can have extremely high returns. It's a special talent for someone to be able to cover an industry and yet have their respect in this way. 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