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Hi I am running Studio One 5 on a PC, and I am considering to ditch my USB interface and go with a Quantum 2626 to get that low latency. The Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 audio interface also has Air Mode, which enhances the detail of your music, and i/o’s that have better headroom. Antelope Audio Orion Studio Synergy Core Thunderbolt 3 and USB Audio Interface with 12 Discrete Preamps and 6 DSP + 2 FPGA FX Processors 5.0 out of 5 stars 1 $2,995.00 $ 2,995 . These little guys are pricey but world-class, so you get what you pay for. 00 If you were looking for a USB 3.0 audio interface, I hope you’ve learned that Thunderbolt is where the industry is currently at. 2019-05-01#prosoundweb#proaudioWe’re looking at the Quantum 2 Thunderbolt audio interface from the team at PreSonus in this video. Are they using third party drivers for both thunderbolt and USB? Also, Thunderbolt 3 now shares the same port as USB-C, so while they'd both essentially be classified as a USB audio interface, Thunderbolt (40 Gbps transfer rate) can carry far more data, but far more than you'd ever need. The difference is in bandwidth as opposed to speed of transfer. Proven, reputable MOTU drivers work with all your favorite audio apps, delivering industry-leading, ultra-low round-trip latency (RTL) performance as low as 1.6 ms at 96 kHz over Thunderbolt with high-performance DAW hosts. Highlights. 3) MIDI is not supported. Nowadays, USB 2.0 is being replaced by 3.0 in many high-end motherboards. Thunderbolt – The second most common connector, favourable due to fast speed and compatibility with most Macs. Clarett by focusrite the faster thunderbolt interface by the world s leading audio interface company. USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 sound cards are future-proof enough. 10. An Audio Interface connects to your PC via either a USB-, Thunderbolt- or a Fire-Wire cable and takes the analog signal that’s coming from the microphone and accurately converts it into a digital one, so that the computer can “understand it” and record it to the DAW. For mastering, or a playback device, this wouldn't much matter, but for tracking audio in a studio, latency is big deal. The 16A Thunderbolt audio interface from MOTU provides industry-leading dynamic range and large console style mixing. Not only do modern audio interfaces handle the important job of digital conversion, many also provide multiple headphone outputs, flexible routing, metering, I/O expandability via ADAT and modern connectivity such as Thunderbolt or USB-C with a few products out there priced in the higher ends of the market offering DSP for plug-in processing. It’s all happening inside your audio interface with the lowest latency possible thanks to FPGA’s massive parallel computing capabilities, DSP processing, and fast Thunderbolt™ connectivity. Already well known for their Apollo series, UAD recently introduced the Arrow line which is similar, but different enough to warrant comparison. Battle-tested zero-latency USB audio interface. For many years, interfaces which connected to the computer via a host PCIe card, such as this RME model, were the only option for high-bandwidth, low-latency audio. But the biggest influence is your audio interface. I hope this helped! They include A/B monitor to check mixes of your connected speakers and a talk button for the built-in talkback mic. 500R8 is a 28in/30out USB audio interface with high-performance conversion and low-jitter internal clock, comprehensive monitor controller, analogue summing mixer, zero-latency artist mixer, and 8-slot high current 500 series rack of 5A. This less time than it takes for sound to travel from a snare drum to the drummer’s head! From the charts I've seen, you could shave off an extra millisecond or two at a given buffer size with some Thunderbolt … Get free plug-ins when you buy an SSL 2 or 2+ USB audio interface. First and foremost, USB 3.0 offers greater bandwidth. I'm sure it has, but I would like opinions on USB vs. Thunderbolt recording interfaces. Apollo is a high-resolution professional audio interface with superior sound quality and Realtime UAD Processing onboard. There are a lot of technical differences between a USB and Thunderbolt interface. Well, for starters the Clarett doesn’t stick to USB connectivity only. To be honest, I can't escape the feeling that this is some conjured hoo-ha that you can't back up with facts. Re lowest latency, when using SD3 with my TD30, should I just use the USB-Midi output on the TD30 straight into my laptop (2015 Macbook Pro i7, 16gb ram) or would a Thunderbolt interface (e.g. 5) Audio MIDI Setup settings for the AVB device are not saved upon reboot. I bought my Clarett 4pre second hand, and cable and adapter was included. 4. 5) Audio MIDI Setup settings for the AVB device are not saved upon reboot. The main ones are: USB – The most common form of interface connector, as it plugs directly into a USB 2.0 or 3.0 socket. You connect the interface up to your computer – via USB, thunderbolt or similar – or to your mobile device via an adapter. Connects up to 64 channels of Apogee I/O to any Thunderbolt-equipped Mac; … Check out the Apollo Twin USB.) Pedal to the Floor Its dual mic inputs offer switchable phantom power, 60dB of gain that also serves as 1/4-inch inputs via combo jacks, stereo main outs, and a headphone output. The new, rack-mountable AXR4U audio interface, provides a USB-C alternative to the already available AXR4T Thunderbolt 2 interface. It’s twice as fast as USB 3.0, twenty times faster than USB 2.0 and twelve times faster than Firewire 800. With ultra-low latency performance, comprehensive studio functionality and legendary Apogee quality, Ensemble is the ideal choice to meet the diverse demands of the professional home or commercial studio. Looks like USB 3.0 has a much lower latency than USB 2.0 and it would allow for things like playthrough recording. If I were to add a USB audio interface, all of a sudden instead of having 480Mb/s dedicated to it, I have 80 Mb/s for each device. Both the Apollo and the Apogee have just two ins and two preamps. Thunderbolt 3 ports look the same as USB Type-C ports, but they're speedier, and the two have key inner differences. USB 3.0 is obviously faster than USB 2.0, so you’d want to shop for the audio interface with the fastest connection possible. Luckily USB devices have enough speed for the exclusion of any latency within a signal chain. They happen more than you'd expect. Latency being the time delay to go through ADC, pass it into the computer, get it back out the DAC. Latency is the delay of the transmission of the sound as it passes through the audio interface into the computer and out of the computer and back to the audio interface. Extremely flexible routing and mixing capabilities. Inputs: 2 x XLR-1/4″ combo, 1 x instrument I got a few details from Focusrite regarding their USB vs thunderbolt speeds. Lowest latency. The knob layout is clean and simplistic, and the build quality feels extremely durable. Unison mic preamp and guitar amp emulations from Neve, API, Manley, Marshall, Fender, and more. 3) MIDI is not supported. I'm completely new to the idea of using a DAC + Amp or Combo when I'm not in my home studio with my Apogee Ensemble Thunderbolt interface. Record external mic input without latency - hinges more on the audio interface monitoring option AND its ASIO driver. Having said that, a number of the best audio interfaces have Thunderbolt connections. One thing worth considering is that while common, USB 2.0 does not offer the fastest connection (aka low latency). Before purchasing an audio interface, the first step is to ascertain what type of communications your computer supports. Since the demise of FireWire, many pro audio interfaces have been adopting Thunderbolt as … A 4-channel audio interface will allow you to record 4 separate audio sources simultaneously. Paired with onboard software, grasp seamless control over essential parameters: signal routing, effects, sub-mixes, and monitoring levels. Ah sorry .. round trip latency or the time it takes the signal to get from the audio interface to your computer and back again Jan 26, 2017, 4:30 PM Like axemanchris likes this That plus the fact that the 1824c has only one set of ADAT digital I/O's, where the 2626 has two and the 1824 only has word clock out. USB-2/USB-3 audio interfaces can't get much below ~4ms total round-trip latency. I found the switch from USB Audio Box to RME startling to say the least. USB audio class-compliant firmware and high-performance, industry-standard drivers work with any audio apps. It features two high-quality preamps with jacks that accept XLR and ¼” inputs. Most of their other audio interfaces use Thunderbolt, but this article is just focused on USB connections, so maybe we’ll get into more detail in another post. Built upon 30 years of mic pre mastery, the Clarett preamp is the finest we build into a USB audio interface. £2,125.00 £1,699.00 (2) IK Multimedia iRig Micro Amp ... Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 3rd Generation USB-C Audio Interface Customer Experience Mr Don Whiteford. The difference in terms of latency seems minimal to me between the two and there is a big difference in price here in the UK. For those wondering, the advantage of Thunderbolt is that it reduces “round trip” audio latency. This is good enough for amateur use. The truth is the best audio interface for your home studio will depend on your needs and the amount of money you’re free to spend. Aging audio interface which could use an update. + Incredibly low latency. For example, my current Windows laptop has connectors for Ethernet, HDMI, VGA, audio in, audio out, three USB ports, and an ExpressCard slot. The Scarlett 4i4 is another excellent USB-C audio interface from Focusrite’s third-generation audio interfaces. Thunderbolt allows more data to come in which means that you can record more at a time without overloading. Universal Audio has set a lot of standards over the years, and their Arrow interface continues this tradition. It’s all happening inside your audio interface with the lowest latency possible thanks to FPGA’s massive parallel computing capabilities, DSP processing, and fast Thunderbolt™ connectivity. Symphony 64 | ThunderBridge is for the audio professional seeking the highest channel count, lowest latency, and highest quality Thunderbolt audio solution for the Mac based studio. Works reliably with a 2ms buffer size and a sample rate of 48kHz, interface latency … I have a PC running Windows 8.1. I'm currently getting 3.9 ms roundtrip in Logic at 48KHz and 32 samples and 2.8ms at 96KHz at 32 samples I wanted to decide whether to go with thunderbolt 3 or USB 3.0 i can see both units are more like having same price. USB 3.0 bus-powered, USB Type-C bus-powered, External USB 5 V AC adaptor (not included) USB 3.0 bus-powered, USB Type-C bus-powered, External USB 5 V AC adaptor (not included) USB Type-C bus-powered, External 12 V AC adaptor (Yamaha PA-150B) External 16 V AC adaptor (Yamaha PA-300C) External 24 V AC adaptor (Yamaha PA-700) The audio interface will provide your mic with an external power source called phantom power; For podcasting, the preferred solution is to connect an audio interface to a computer with USB 2.0 or 3.0 cable; The audio interface should have direct monitoring to avoid the impact of latency when recording use busses, use AUXs and don't put a stupid amount of plugins on a huge amount of tracks. Red 16Line is a 64-in/64-out Pro Tools | HD and dual Thunderbolt 3 audio interface with ultra-low latency A-D/D-A conversion, Red Evolution mic preamps, up to 121dB dynamic range, ultra-low round trip latency, and expansion over Ethernet for networked audio. Packed with features not found on … Connects seamlessly with any DAW on PC or MAC. It’s easily one of the best Thunderbolt audio interfaces out there, and an affordable way to get your hands on the classic UAD sound.. Now the british company have added usb 2.0 versions of the 2pre, 4pre and 8pre to the clarett range, promising performance that will beat interfaces of twice the price. 4) Increased latency between the interface and computer when compared to USB and Thunderbolt connections. This speed, called latency, is how fast the medium sends your input signal in and out of your computer. USB-C is an interface form factor; that says *nothing* about the *speed* of the interface. We use satellite-grade XTC clocking technology, utilizing four temperature-compensated crystal oscillators for ultra-stable audio performance, keeping your audio jitter and distortion free. Zoom’s USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt interfaces combine great connectivity with incredibly low latency figures at a very reasonable price. Think of Thunderbolt … This Audio Interface completely sounds transcendent, undoubtedly exceeding other interfaces in the same league. The Quantum 2626 also supports Thunderbolt 1, but you won’t get the same performance. On the other hand, the latest universal standard, USB 3.0, is a huge improvement on its predecessor, is compatible with past versions, and is widely available. If you have a Thunderbolt 2 computer, the good news is that the 2626 is backward-compatible, and the speed of the connection, according to PreSonus, is the same. This 2 x 4 Thunderbolt 3 bus-powered audio interface for Mac and Windows includes a generous collection of UAD plug-ins to record vocals and guitars through, at near-zero latency — plus it offers full integration with Universal Audio's groundbreaking new LUNA Recording System. This is due to the architecture of the host computer driver stack and its handling of USB audio (isochronous) data. I found the latency slider and moved it all the way to the left. This Thunderbolt (2) & USB compatible audio interface has such spectrum of features, from the range of available inputs through to its impressive 123dB of dynamic range, and ultra-low roundtrip latency times which average roughly 1.6ms (via thunderbolt) and 1.9ms (via USB). We’ve featured a list of the top 10 best zero latency audio interfaces below, alongside all of the key information that you’ll be curious about, including whether or not the interfaces are compatible with Mac, PC and the type of connection port, i.e Thunderbolt, USB 2.0, USB 3.0, etc. The USB 2.0 creates more latency than the Thunderbolt cord. With Thunderbolt, it’s under 1 ms. (Don’t have USB-C but want to get into UAD? Perfect for recording piano or DI electric guitar. Since Thunderbolt is allowed almost straight access to the CPU, it is able to lower the “round trip” audio latency from about an absolute minimum of about 4.5 ms through USB, to under 1 ms. There are many types of connectors that audio interfaces. Some say usb 2.0 is fast enough other state that a thunderbolt 3 interface is the best. Ensemble Thunderbolt™ is the best sounding all-in-one audio recording interface for Mac. If you still want to be stubborn though… Take a look at the Steinberg UR24C. Using a connection such as USB, Firewire, or Thunderbolt, the audio is transmitted to your computer. OK, so USB 3.0 is a protocol spec (actually, now 3.1 gen 1, 5 Mb/s). I've been pleased with the solid performance and improvement in latency (vs. an NI KA6 I used previously) since recently switching to an RME Fireface UCX (connecting via USB). My question is whether the format itself (PCI, Thunderbolt, USB) is a strong consideration (so I would have to upgrade my motherboard) or if I can get satisfactory performance from a USB interface. So, it looks like these new USB-C interfaces are just the dated USB 3.1 gen 1 spec, not the newer gen 2 spec, which is 10 Mb/s. More recently the range has begun converting to USB (signified by the term 2PreUSB as opposed to simply 2Pre), however the flagship model 8PreX still uses Thunderbolt. 1) Thunderbolt can support lower latencies that USB. Desktop 2x4 USB 3 audio interface for Windows 10 with 24‑bit/192 kHz audio conversion. Most amd based systems avoid thunderbolt so you may find that an intel based system is your only option. Fast delivery! Occasionally you'll find something marketed as a "converter" that also offers computer connectivity- perhaps with the use of an optional add-in card- … Getting the most out of both your instruments and computer when doing recording, mixing and producing is achieved easily by having a good audio interface. The size of the buffers determines the amount of latency, and it's user-adjustable. 2) Thunderbolt … Universal Audio Apollo Solo. I am very happy with it, but I might have been that with a more modern USB interface aswell. If you are looking for an audio interface at a cheap price and want great performance, this is one of the best low latency audio interfaces around, especially considering the price. The Scarlett 2i2 is the best-selling small- and affordable audio interface on the market, while the Apollo Twin MKII models are the most popular high-end ones. With USB, that latency is around a minimum of 4.5ms. You won’t even know it’s there. Realtime UAD Processing allows near‑zero latency tracking with classic UAD plug‑in effects, regardless of software buffer setting. And high end interfaces have only thunderbolt support and not the USB support. Written by Audient I recommend a 2-6 channel USB desktop interface, which normally costs between $100-$300 on the low-end, and $500-1500 on the high-end. 1# Latency Monitoring. The Orion Studio Synergy Core Thunderbolt & USB audio interface with 12 preamps. Thunderbolt will also change how laptops are made. The 828es connects to a Mac or PC with Thunderbolt, Hi-speed USB 2.0 or AVB/TSN Ethernet. While it still doesn’t feature any digital I/O, you get MIDI and two award-winning Focusrite’s preamps with AIR mode to record detailed and vibrant audio. In my opinion though, the USB protocol is outdated. With the increase in bandwidth, a Thunderbolt audio interface can have lower latency and higher-resolution audio. I can't get rid of the latency. Find your perfect audio interface. Technical Difference between the Thunderbolt vs USB Audio Interface. Apogee Symphony Desktop. The time the audio spends in these RAM Buffers insures the uninterrupted flow of data, but in doing so, it adds a small, but sometimes perceptible, delay to the monitored audio. Curious as to why UAD has a worse USB performance vs their Thunderbolt? I hope this helps! Thunderbolt 3 is predominantly used by Macs but is becoming more common on Windows-based machines. Filter Focusrite’s range by your preferences for USB or Thunderbolt, inputs and outputs, features and connectivity. With USB, that latency is around a minimum of 4.5ms. Strictly in terms of “plug the guitar into the audio interface and get the tone from DAW plugins”... is there any significant difference in tangible latency between USB and Thunderbolt? The Round Trip Latency (RTP) gives 1.6 ms over Thunderbolt and 1.9 ms over USB. It's the direct access to PCIe of Thunderbolt that makes the latency so much lower. The Element 46 Thunderbolt Audio Interface by Apogee is specially designed for Mac as they have a Thunderbolt interface port. But that’s the thing, 2 years can be a long time. I have Studio One 3 installed. The audio interface vs. sound card controversy is one of the most common debates that come up among beginner music production enthusiasts. Focusrite support has this article, USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0, explaining why adding USB 3.0 to audio interfaces is pretty much pointless. Here are some comparisons between USB and Thunderbolt latency between our (Focusrite) Clarett TBT and Scarlett/Clarett USB interfaces. Make sure you use a short USB cable, either the one that comes in the box or one that is shorter than 2 metres. I like the looks of the UA Apollo and Arrow, but I’m not dead-set on … News; link. Initially released as a Thunderbolt only interface, the newer models are USB-powered. Indeed, we frequently get questions like ‘what are the differences between an audio interface and a sound card?’ and ‘Does a sound card have the same functions as an audio interface? 2) The MOTU Audio Tools application is not supported. With 64 channels of audio I/O (32 ins and 32 outs), the 16A also supports USB 2.0 audio class compliant connectivity that is USB 3.0 compatible. The added control room features instantly give you full control of recording sessions. Connects to your iPad™ with a standard camera connection kit (adapter). Clarett 8PreX Thunderbolt offers very low latency. 4. Air mode, with impedance switching, gives new colour to your mics, emulating ISA’s transformer-based mic pre to bring out unique high-end detail. Your table seems to show that the USB device can easily do <10ms latency… 4) Increased latency between the interface and computer when compared to USB and Thunderbolt connections. And it's own controller hardware that makes it so much more expensive. 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