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can design using smaller gauge wire to distribute power throughout the boat. The Boat Buyers Guide from BoatUS is designed to make it easier for you to buy a boat by explaining the sometimes-confusing process and pointing out the areas that can trip up a buyer. That said, for things like hair dryers and any appliances with heating elements in them, the current draws may be such that the original wiring may indeed be too small a gauge size to accommodate the unexpected amperage. All privately owned vessels used by EU residents within the EU are required to be VAT paid. But it’s going to take an electrical expert to make the correct determination. My parents moved onto a boat a few years ago, so we were familiar with boat life, a little,” says Maria. Partnerships; News. One issue that Ward did bring up was that the European boats are equipped originally with shore-power AC system circuit breakers that are all double-pole, whereas in the U.S. we require a double-pole breaker only on the AC main; everything downstream of the main breaker can then be single-pole. Get an email alert for new ads matching your search. When the boat arrives in the U.S., it’s ready to go with no conversion needed. In some cases you may not get a choice depending on the type of boat you’ve found and where it’s being advertised. I am from Ontario Canada, and I don't think I have enough experience sailing to sail it across the Atlantic. If wired for European 230-volt, 16- or 32-amp service, wiring will in all probability be too small to run at 120-volt 30- to 50-amp service. There are standard forms available online but, unless you’re confident in handling the contract yourself, it would be advisable to seek legal advice first. If you want to buy a boat abroad, first of all you should determine wether the boat is placed in a UE-Country or not. The good news here is that as the economy becomes increasingly global, more and more appliances are being designed that can run at multiple voltage levels as well as either frequency. Another less extreme example that I’ve seen time and time again are European shore-power cords, engineered to work with the 230-volt 16 or 32-amp service used in Europe, being used here in the U.S. for the 120-volt 30 or 50-amp service. If the vessel is not VAT paid, you may want to consider paying the VAT on the boat post sale, however seek advice on this before doing so as the rules are different depending on where in Europe the vessel is being purchased. This will surely cause the wiring to run hotter than desired and may actually cause a fire on board in the worst case. If buying new, the purchasing option can be much like buying a Volvo or BMW and driving it around Europe for a while before shipping it home. Pitfalls of buying your new boat in Europe. A European boat will surely have outlets that are of the type used in the country where the boat was built. TAGS: Buying a boat in Europe. Whether you want to buy or sell, whether you search by computer or on the go using our free Iphone app, boat24.com offers you the boat market you want. Find your boat in our database of yachts, power boats, superyachts, cruisers, houseboats, fishing boats and … Catch the Boat Shows For new and brokerage boats alike, there is an annual schedule of overseas boat shows where you can often find deals, or at least have the chance to get on board and inspect a few promising yachts in a single day. Having these documents translated into English will also be extremely useful when you come to sell the boat later down the line. We often hear about wire-size discrepancies when discussing Euro to U.S. electrical conversions. Isobel Smith; 29.05.2015. There’s a lot to consider when buying a boat in Europe. Any appliance with a motor in it such as air conditioners and refrigeration devices are going to be a potential problem. Sailing Boats For Sale: Buy a Sailing Boat from the Yachts For Sale on Boats24.com! If the seller is unable to prove VAT, then you may want to consider whether you wish to proceed with the sale. Find your ideal boat boat, compare prices and more. Search BOAT International's collection of superyachts for sale and filter by type, length, asking price or age. I spoke with James Nobel, Vice President and Marketing Director for Viking/Princess Yachts America, to get his take on conversions for their boats. Please note that this article does not constitute legal advice. Amperage ratings are typically 16, 32, or 64. All of this applies to things like battery chargers, inverters, galley appliances, televisions, and audio equipment. In the long run, he says, buyers will almost assuredly take a hit on resale value as well. Essential engine checks: Handy tips to make the job easier, Marine fuel saving tips: Save money and make your boat go further in eight easy steps, Guide to buying your first boat: Tips and advice from brokers and first time buyers, Ocean cruising experts share their sailing knowledge. What you should know before buying your new boat in Europe and importing into North America. Ultimately you want peace of mind and confidence in the broker especially when buying a boat abroad.”. Nobel expressed great concern over the potential danger when a conversion gets done by amateurs or even under-qualified pros, and there’s no lack of evidence to support that concern and the Viking/Princess philosophy. Boats, boats for sale, Apollo Duck new and used boat sales. TOP TIP: Make sure anything you sign is in English. According to Ward, many customers will address this by adding U.S. convenience outlets strategically around the vessel and providing a smaller separate AC panel and new service to the boat that is dedicated to the new receptacles. Buying a boat in the Med can be a very affordable option. If you want a new Princess, it can be ordered in either a European configuration or a U.S. configuration. The advantages of running at higher voltages are significant when you consider the high cost of copper and the weight involved. Just as you would create a corporate structure to protect your other assets, you should do the same when it comes to yacht registration.For this reason, many boat owners opt to register their yacht in places like the Cayman Islands to avoid the onerou… Location is the key The Mediterranean covers a vast area, with different regions having widely varied local geography and culture. Everything there may cost more, but maybe it's worth it. EUR 119.000,-Basis for Negotiation / EU taxes paid. Sell your boat fast with a free photo advert. Motors are both voltage and frequency sensitive. Another thing to do is visit the broker’s website and see how they’re advertising their boats. “But I would never have thought of a boat before Maria suggested it. These can be relatively easily found in Europe but much harder to locate back home. This may seem counterintuitive, but can be explained this way: If you increase the voltage, you can lower the current requirements to achieve the same wattage (power). They are DINKies (double income, no kids), have a dog, fully admit how much work they put into their boat, but none-the-less love life on board. Buy a sailing boat from private vendors and boat dealers. As a consequence VAT is chargeable on boats imported into the EU and on boats purchased and owned by residents of the EU who are using their boat within the EU. When buying a yacht, the choice of yacht flags is one of the most important decisions you have to make because it can have a direct effect on your privacy, taxes, and your exposure to liability. Other areas that Mr. Nobel mentioned were insurability and resale value. More and more Americans moving to Europe are buying barges rather than apartments or homes, and a few are supplementing their income by taking on paying passengers a few weeks each year. In the event that you’re dealing with a smaller brokerage that doesn’t use standard sale contracts, you should still expect to be given a sale contract. Are brokers using other well-known international websites such as YBW or Yachting Monthly. Share. All privately owned vessels used by EU residents within the EU are required to pay a Value Added Tax (VAT), which can add a hefty 20 percent to your sales price. It turns out this issue is more of a concern on smaller boats, say under 50 feet in length, that would typically use only 120-volt service in the US. There are so many factors in favour of buying a boat in the Med, but don’t allow idyllic images to overshadow important practical considerations. In some cases you may not get a choice depending on the type of boat you’ve found and where it’s being advertised. This will specify the terms & conditions of the transaction such as sale price, forfeiture and refund of deposit, complete date, place of delivery, what happens if the survey is unsatisfactory etc. New and used sailboats and yachts for sale on Boats24.com. These units are not inexpensive, however—12 KVA units or the rough equivalent to U.S. 50-amp service sell for just over $18,000 plus installation, while 24 KVA units equivalent to 100-amp service sell for $36,000. I asked Arian Leon, one of the technicians who actually perform the conversions at Ward’s, what some typical labor costs might be for the many conversions he’s done. Equipment replacement costs could easily add tens of thousands of dollars to that. Used Boat; Year Built 1997 This will help to establish yourself as a bona fide purchaser and will protect you if it turns out a bank or a third party owns the boat for example. Instead, make sure you take the following guidance on board and if at any point you feel unsure about the sale, contact a specialist such as law firm YachtingLawyers, who specialise in helping people buy boats at home and abroad and will help guide you through the process. Examples of title documents include bills of sale, previous sale contract, a builder’s certificate, insurance certificates and registration certificate. Within the contract it’s important for the person selling the boat to state that they are the legal owner and they have the right to sell it. VAT is also chargeable on boats, irrespective of ownership, which spend more than 6 months in any calendar year cruising in the EU, although there is scope to enable an owner to use a yacht in the EU … There is more risk involved with a private sale, as anybody can sell a boat and you’ve no way of knowing if they’re reputable. Make sure the owner declares in the contract that they are the legal and beneficial owner, and have the right to sell the boat, which is free from any debts and encumbrances of any kind. The MYBA standard contracts are internationally well known. Ward says that the average 80- to 100-foot motor yacht will often have two of these installed to keep up with the loads from air conditioning and refrigeration units, all-electric galleys, and such. Most of these boats have been retired from the fleet and are available to buy and relocate to a waterway of your choice. If you can’t find genuine examples of these then it should ring a few alarm bells. If a cruising power boat is on your list, they offer a 1989, 42-foot Ocean Alexander located in France for $166,000. YachtWorld contains the largest photo and video database of boats for sale. If you’re buying a second-hand boat, make sure that VAT (also referred to as IVA in Europe) is accounted for. There’s a lot to consider when buying a boat in Europe. The moment it becomes stressful and you feel unsure about the purchase, that is the time to proceed with caution and seek legal advice.“. Ward claims his company has installed bulkhead mounted frequency converters on boats down to about the 50-foot LOA size range. Security is absolutely not an issue except in the major towns where you should lock things up as a normal procedure. 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