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";s:4:"text";s:18237:"Originally the word torpedo referred to any explosive charge, including the type of weapon now known as a mine (q.v. In the center of every atom is the nucleus. a little rocket booster would have to be turned on mid-flight to correct the direction of the warhead (objects in space will continue to move in a straight line unless acted on by a force (Newton's first law)). How to outline the union of an annulus and a rectangle in TikZ? Ships with Cannon Slots 1. I want these babies dead on.". site design / logo © 2021 Stack Exchange Inc; user contributions licensed under cc by-sa. Maybe George Lucas could fix this issue in one last "Special Edition"? Martian dust as ferric oxide and Rupert Wildt. How worried should I be about this cough? If there is only a 1/5th of a second margin for error, then probably no one save for someone with Jedi skills and force powers could do that, hence the reason why Luke was probably the only one that could do it. This was changed from the book version, as the pilots were originally told that they would have to approach the exhaust port at a precise 90 degree angle, precisely fire the torpedoes, then veer away before crashing into the death star itself, both of which are what made it near impossible save for the most skilled pilots, especially while being pursued by Tie Fighters, avoiding turbo laser fire, etc. If I have a chance to look through one of the Star Wars Tech manuals I will check it out. Because of the long lock-on >>delay, you may want to unequip the torpedoes entirely prior to some missions - they >>aren't great against fast-disappearing capital ships. It seems to me that it wasn't merely getting them into the vent that was the trick, it was that the port was an opening to a path to the reactor. Inclusion of an idecomposable module in the direct sum of two copies always split? 1 New Rule 2 Card Text 3 Rules Clarification 4 Attributes 5 Available Through 6 Timing With Armada 1.5 published in December 2020 this card's effect and cost have been changed. Inclusion of an idecomposable module in the direct sum of two copies always split? "I said the port wasn't particle-shielded. @DjangoReinhardt - Possibly of interest to you; 'thermal exhaust port' - it vents waste heat, not necessarily gas. True, it turns a focus to a crit, but you have to spend a target lock just to fire it. Lacking a guidance system, it stands to reason that the torpedoes had a preprogrammed trajectory already established. Is this a draw despite the Stockfish evaluation of −5? Please note that "programmed to turn in advance by X-Wing's targeting computer" is not an answer, as I'm looking specifically for what the mechanism for ability to execute the turn, NOT why the turn happened when it happened. So it seems likely that the port was venting matter of some kind that could have created a pressure differential sucking those torpedoes down. My second point is that again I am assuming that these proton torpedo warheads have significant weight and my follow up on that would be that the Death Star, due to it's significant size may be exerting a considerable force of gravity, similar to our moon does on our Earth. Is there a canon explanation for why Star Trek ships bank when turning? This further increases my confidence that the "thermal exhaust" consists primarily of matter and not energy. Some interplay between a torpedo and Death Star's technology as TangoOversway's answer to that question alluded to being a possibility? Ancient temple booby traps designed for dragons, Sci-fi film where an EMP device is used to disable an alien ship, and a huge robot rips through a gas station. Deactivate the homing system. This I also know to be true from the X-Wing video games. Why don't beryllium and magnesium dissolve in ammonia? How to initialize a qubit with a custom state in Qiskit Composer, Effects of time dilation on our observations of the Sun, Stigma of virginity and chastity loophole, Reducing Latency Between US and India/South Asia or Desktop Access on CentOS 7+ GNOME. In general, proton torpedoes are armed for light targets only, and are only useful for pinpoint attacks on vessels whose shields have already been dropped by capital ship weapons. For example, the aforementioned Jedi Trial states that Proton Torpedoes were first used in the "Clones Wars", yet Anakin's big yellow Starfighter at the end of The Phantom Menace is said to be equipped with them. That might make sense when you're writing something, but it's obviously harder to ignore the laws of inertia when someone asks you to animate it. A Proton Torpedo Launcher carries a Starship's Proton Torpedo payload. by collisions with debris or near misses by laser cannon blasts". A modern torpedo is an underwater ranged weapon launched above or below the water surface, self-propelled towards a target, and with an explosive warhead designed to detonate either on contact with or in proximity to the target. This makes them much more appealing on ships with native three dice attack. TIE Defender 3. I want to turn an equality statement into a function. Can I use a MacBook as a server with the lid closed. Next steps? It's FAR from canon, but in the old X-Wing and Tie Fighter games, proton torpedoes were target seeking weapons with their own guidance systems. To subscribe to this RSS feed, copy and paste this URL into your RSS reader. They can blow a ship to dust when used against an unshielded target. Of course, that's just one canon. I've agreed to be the spokesperson for a new line of performance enhancing drugs. Why did Luke need a targeting computer in the first place? Unfortunately I don't have any 'evidence' for (or against) this, if anyone does, I'd appreciate an edit to that effect. This page is about torpedoes used in Star Wars which operate using ProtonsN 1 For the similarly named Star Trek weapons designed to use Photons, N 2, see Photon Torpedoes 1 Description 2 Notable models 3 References 3.1 Notes 3.2 Sources Proton torpedoes were a type of ordnance used throughout the galaxy. Now the Advanced Missles, those were pretty awesome. Why do my target labels need to begin at 0 for sparse categorical cross entropy to work? A standard Proton Torpedo Launcher holds three Proton Torpedoes (See below). Alpha Class Starwing (with Title) 2.2. Why does water weaken ion ion attractions? At this point in time, you havn't even COUNTED how much Damage you do. Guided ordnance in space would have the same mechanics of a simple shuttle as far as maneuvering is concerned. Wookieepedia states (without attribution) that proton torpedoes have the ability to turn 90 degrees inside of a meter, with an accompanying image of just what you're talking about. I always assumed that the Torpedoes were 'sucked' in. They do damage via the release of gamma rays from a matter- antimatter reaction. @BBlake - search scifi.SE for "G-canon". What's the map on Sheldon & Leonard's refrigerator of? :). There are like 5 or 7 layers of canon in SW Universe. Seems to me, when Luke opened himself to the Force, it not only told him where to shoot, but when. I explicitly want canon sources, not Wookiepedia; and there's zero explanation of the mechanism there. So that's my first point. Can you provide any references to back up what appears to be a conjecture ? Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. The target is only two meters across. Wait... Use the force, Luke. The 1st chain are all engineering techs with equivalent weapons, and the 2nd chain are phyiscs techs (also with weapons by the same name). How canon is Star Wars: Battlefront (2015)? Proton torpedoes should be like neutron bombs, just with protons. Term to describe paradox where those with less subject matter expertise can sometimes make better teachers? Aggressor (two) 3.2. TL;DR: Equip your proton missiles and use them 1 per target that allows it. In the games (X-Wing, Rogue Squadron, etc. Torpedos replace your standard missiles until exhausted. To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers. A POWERFUL weapon in the arsenals of the major powers of Star Trek. This implies some further input from Luke, but actually he turns off his targeting computer in order to manually decide when to fire his torpedoes into the exhaust port, and there doesn't appear to be any further input from him after that at all. Welcome to the site. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. The photon torpedo carries a guidance system and can home in on a target. It only takes a minute to sign up. The SFX team apparently took this problem and envisioned them more "realistically" as something akin to traditional bombs. Because that's the Next Step. It is the size of a small moon, and more or less hollow. Here added references to the points you make would help back up your answer :), Not sure if you're right, but it's a pretty good theory! Even in the briefing animation, they're shown taking an approximately 90 degree turn. According to the graphic that @Django Reinhardt created I don't see those adjustment boosters, at least they're not obvious. I just bought proton torpedoes since I got to level 50, but I don't know how to use them. Photons, actually, have nothing to do … If you're open to letting other authors interpret how Proton Torpedoes work, and are prepared to enter the murky (and often contradictory) "Expanded Universe", then there's more answers waiting for you. ... which leaves only the propellant tube (vectored thrust?) You must maneuver straight in down this shaft, level off in the trench and skim the surface to this point. It's really not much better than a regular 3-dice attack with either focus or target lock to modify the dice. Question about order of a sum of entire functions. That means no energy beams. Your cursor must remain over the target the entire time. Use line-of-sight guidance system. Photon torpedoes are secondary missile weapons used by the starships of the United Federation of Planets. Once it's locked on, release the right mouse button to fire the proton torpedo. Besides, if you can maneuver at 72000 g, you probably don't need a warhead . Perhaps some complex pump system causes a pressure differential after exhausting waste gas. It's always been my impression the Lucas doesn't consider anything outside of the 7 movies and Clone Wars series to be actual canon. So after getting to 50 I went and got a torpedo launcher and went and did the final mission where you cripple the big ship (that you get at 48, I did it at 48 so it isn't new) and I find that the proton torpedoes have trouble locking on, AND I have trouble firing regular missiles at the shield gens because the torpedoes keep trying to lock on. Scum 3.1. (With this interpretation, Luke turning off his targeting computer allowed him to manually guide the missiles down the exhaust port.). Roadside / Temporary fix for skipping chain. Rebel 1.1. However you have a max of 4 Protons and ALL MISSIONS that have the possibility of firing these Proton missiles have no more than the max of 4 targets to fire at. The general consensus is that proton torpedoes aren't worth the points. as in programmed to turn after say 100m ? Can you cast Call Lightning while submerged underwater? They can usually be evaded fairly easily but can nearly destroy most starfighters with one hit. The "ninety degrees" could refer to the fact the torpedoes turn 90 degrees during their fall. Why didn't the original Death Star's shields protect against small fighters? Various alien powers use weapons that are visually similar to, or identified as, photon torpedoes. What is the best use of Warzone Commendations (for PVP purposes) after reaching Battlemaster (Valor Rank 60)? To fire a proton torpedo, position your cursor over the target and hold down the right mouse button until it establishes a lock. Yea, something like that. "Black : Exhaust this card. In the fourth draft (the one just prior to filming) of the script, Lucas gives us a hint about how he envisioned the Proton Torpedoes working: I think by "ninety degrees" that Lucas was probably imagining that the pilot had to be directly above the exhaust port in order for it to drop go all the way down into the reactor. Some other mechanism? I have no know. Naval-technology.com lists the world’s most advanced torpedoes based on performance characteristics such as speed, range and operating depth. How are “immobilized” and “incapacitated” defined? Why Did the Rebels Have to Fly Along the Death Star Trench? Or rather, they probably weren't supposed to. What's the difference between the space torpedoes ---> armoured torpedoes ---> devastator torpedoes chain and the proton torpedoes ---> neutron torpedoes chain? Physics students have boldly gone where no student has gone before -- by calculating one way to potentially build photon torpedoes seen in the Star Trek universe. Is there a link between democracy and economic prosperity? This leaves them shooting perpendicularly to their original path at launch time (and the direction of the fighter's nose at launch time), which is straight down into the exhaust port since the fighter was flying parallel to the surface. Indeed, if you slow down the infamous shot in question, you can see that the animator seemed want the torpedoes to appear to be falling... it's the just animation happens too quickly you don't see it. Science Fiction & Fantasy Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for science fiction and fantasy enthusiasts. Firespray-31 3.3. Your cursor must remain over the target the entire time. It therefore falls in a sort of an arc downward, which may have been what the original plan for the proton torpedoes' flight. It will take a precise hit at exactly ninety degrees to reach the reactor systematization. This is more likely born out of the need for gaming mechanics, however. Noting their apparently strange behaviour in the original movie, it seems that most EU authors have imagined Proton Torpedoes to be simple homing missiles with the additional ability of manual remote control. Something of Proton Torpedoes can radiate through the physical shielding most ships have against things like meteors and stuff to do energy type damage to a hull and Concussion Missles do quiet a bit of damage generally because they're like modern day concussion grenades blah blah blah. Firstly, you resolve a Critical Effect. What damage did Red Leader's torpedoes cause to the Death Star? In the alternate reality, the advanced long-range torpedoes were a type of photon torpedo developed by Starfleet in 2258 as part of the preparations for a war with the Klingon Empire. Proton torpedoes were used during the Battle of Naboo by N-1 starfighter pilots. rev 2021.3.12.38768, The best answers are voted up and rise to the top, Arqade works best with JavaScript enabled, Start here for a quick overview of the site, Detailed answers to any questions you might have, Discuss the workings and policies of this site, Learn more about Stack Overflow the company, Learn more about hiring developers or posting ads with us, http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1200623. Stack Exchange network consists of 176 Q&A communities including Stack Overflow, the largest, most trusted online community for developers to learn, share their knowledge, and build their careers. Upvote - The Legends EU establishes proton torpedoes as programmable in the Thrawn Trilogy, Rogue Squadron books, and well throughout the NJO. Note that I said 5 above — Killer's assertion that there are never more than 4 targets you can use the torpedoes on is incorrect, especially since there is more than one ultra-ship in some missions. Could you please delete the first half of the answer? Basically, with the EU you pretty much get to choose your canon, but most of the time they're considered to be homing missiles, with the ability for manual guidance. YV-666 Rank… Cannons saw a small change in 2.0 with the introduction of range bonuses. Forcefields from an X-Wing? The rebels expected the thing to be workable without knowing they have a powerful Jedi wannabe around. Does it mean that the weapon will undo any damage it does to shields or will it actualy just fix a targets shields when it hits? Deal 1 faceup damage card to the defender." How do you vent heat into space without venting gas? The target is only two meters across. The original novel by Lucas states, as an extension to the dialogue heard in the movie, something along the lines of "the shaft would be rendered useless by particle shielding; however, it is completely ray-shielded". In comparison, during that same period, Earth's Starfleet was still employing the spatial torpedo, although they soon upgraded to photonic torpedoes, the precursors to the photon torpedo. The proton torps average 2.7 hits, while 3 dice with focus averages 2.3 hits. Proton Torpedoes do NOT replace your standard missiles until they are done they are used in place of your regular missiles when attacking shielded targets and the mod does NOT have to be removed from mission to mission. Absolutely wrong. Why couldn't Foaly tell that Artemis had planned more than what he let on under the effect of the Mesmer while he was editing Artemis's memories? "Corran switched over to proton torpedo target control. Is there any sort of official Canon explanation for how the torpedoes turned? I always assumed that the torpedoes were programmed to turn at 90 degree's and that the real "trick" was the PRECISE moment of firing, which Luke was able to do because of the force and Obi-Wan helping him out. Is there an engine evaluation technique that factors in 'time'? This is different from regular missiles where you can just single click or drag over top without remaining over the target. After Anakin Skywalker crash-landed in the Droid Control Ship, he initiated a restart of his fighter and defended himself by firing laser cannons at Trade Federation battle droids, and accidentally destroyed the control ship by unintentionally firing two proton torpedoes into its starboard pilot reactor. Klingons began using photon torpedoes by at least the mid-22nd century. 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