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</html>";s:4:"text";s:17782:"All the above comments about workarounds for the Gearsensor are correct, but when training a novice ebiker it is nice to have one less thing to worry about. 99. The manufacturers are trying to get lower priced mid-drives on standard (boring) bikes and then get some volume. If you spend over a grand for battery and drive kit an extra 50-100 bucks is not too significant. That can’t last. I was pretty excited when I first tried it, but I just never use it anymore. Startup Dgree(Signal No. Note: Not all the controllers have the gear sensor and headlight leads, if you need … My two E-Rad branded BBS02 drive units are my least used ebikes in my garage, and I seem to get by just fine without a gear sensor on my other 10 ebikes. In my experience, a properly tuned and straight derailleur should not break chains even when shifting under load. For BBS02 and BBSHD gearsensor … A lot has happened in the last several years, and now this new shifting sensor is getting much more accepted in the ebike community to the point where it is becoming almost commonplace. Radim Mráz I see that you have discussed here usage of GS-D and GS-I models for different shifting systems. I think it hurts the ebike shops because the hard shifts are not a selling point on a test ride. When you pull the brake lever, the brake sensor detects this and cuts power to the motor. Cut it off? ... Jan 1, 2021. The magnet glues or sticks to the brake lever, and then a sensor sticks to the brake lever housing. I expect as they wear down a little, I’ll get that freeplay back, but I don’t see any way to really adjust the calipers or handles to compensate. It mounts inline with the shifter cable and detects the cable movement. Bafang central driven system BBS02 or BBS02B controller 36V500W, 48V500W or 750W for replacement. The Gearsensor is plug and play with any BBS02 or BBSHD in place of one of your ebrakes and is a 15 minute install. The Bafang G310 replaces your bike’s rear hub, so you’ll need to integrate it into your bike’s rear wheel and drivetrain. For more power, you can either run the BBS02 hot, or upgrade to the BBSHD @ a cool-running 1500W. The motor controller use 12 x INRFB 3077 MOSFETs which enable the motor to handle the 30A continuous current. There are so many opinions out there about this Gear Sensor. That means you can get a BBSHD from Lunacycles for $699 here and add a gear sensor for $49 and a Luna Eclipse 42T chainring for $99 and you’re still $400 ahead of the E-rad one and the only difference is the controller programming and the logo. warranty or not. Create an account with us and you'll be able to: Fill in your email below to request a new password. They are not putting shift sensors on these, at least the Shimano STEPS, and the Currie. Is The Gearsensor A Total Waste Of Money Or A Must Have? That’s really it, there are no other differences between the E-rad drive system and any other BBSxx drive unit you buy anywhere else. My intention was to let ebike virgins ride my bike. If you’re an ebike fanatic and you don’t mind springing for the extra $50 it might be worthwhile for you. wozwasted; Dec 7, 2020; Replies 1 Views 194. This we have done by changing the parameters in the gearsensor in order to optimize the feeling from gearsensor function in combination with different shifting systems. What is the Generations of this motor? It is the newest BAFANG version BBS02B! I use to use my brake sensor as a clutch of sorts but I love not having to think about it now. Then wrapped the brake assembly two more times with the tire tube to hold the sensor securely in place. The delay is a little longer, but most people will probably not even really notice the difference. If your motor does not have this cable you can hook the gear sensor up to a brake sensor cable instead. 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Package include: 1 pcs Gear Sensor This device would be installed on the shifting cable by cutting out a small section of the cable housing and it would sense when you shifted the gears on your ebike.  99 % of my riding is pedalling, while at the same time feathering in the specific assist I feel the need for, with the PAS at 0. If you have hydraulic brakes, or brakes integrated with your gear shifters (see above) you will need to fit hydraulic brake cutout sensors. Any gear sensor bought with a Higo style plug will work with ANY BBS02 or BBSHD on the market. Stops heavy torque “slamming” of the chain. I think. My first exposure to the Gear Sensor was while testing the E-Rad branded BBS02 drive system last year in this article. Hw is almost done as proto, now need to code iPhone app. If it is out of warranty, Bafang still can repair for customer, but the concerning material cost, labor cost, freight etc. For BBS02 and BBSHD gearsensor click here, 1330 E Franklin Ave. A must for center-motored e-bikes! Here's how you can do it: I’m switching from a 9 speed to a 7 speed cluster with a beefier chain. My BBS02 has a gear sensor cable coming out of it. I’ll attempt to answer most of these questions in this article. You’ll be $55 richer for it, but hey it’s only money right? Shifting into a higher gear will not generally create much of a problem, but sometimes shifting into a lower gear will. This was my first ebike, so I didn’t start riding it like this initially — when I finally figured out how to ride it like this, I guess I had already worn the brakes down quite a bit. Instructions on programming your BBSxx unit as well as. It’s not that hard to do. It’s not clear to me if the internals are the same as the other SA 3spd IGH’s that don’t have a cassette. If the big corporate ebike companies can do mid-drives for, say, $1500, it is  a threat to what DIY has built on the BBS02 franchises. So I’m wondering. Our BBSHD motors come equipped with the gear sensor cable so you can add it at the deraileur. the direction the Gearsensor is mounted will affect its performance. I was given the tip of backpedal on E.S. Just one note, Czechoslovakia split like 25 years ago. – The sensor is patented which can detect the action when rider shifted the gear on eBike – It can help a rider avoid some problems like chain or derailleur damaged, also can bring some smooth shifting feeling to the rider, it can widely be used for middle motor drive system Check out Karl’s special sauce on the programming page. You can loosen the cable a bit if the pads are new and there is no play. 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