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All rights reserved. However, there is an opportunity cost, as moving changing them takes many years. Both Steam and GOG versions go on sale every so often for like 75% off. 4. This is one of the best strategy games of all time.. the multyplayer is AMAZING. Yeah, the problem with EU3 is that without all the expansions that has now been released, the game is pretty... "meh". Thus, EU3 had a better, if more unpredictable system. But it had a lot bigger hurdles IMO. The AI in EU4 since release that doesnt take completely nonsensical loans? After playing for a while, if you really like the game, you can look at what the other dlcs offer and decide which you think are worth getting. -superior taxation system with yearly and monthly taxes - i understand that yearly taxes used to confuse players (and i imagine AI as well) but at the same time it was also a pretty good tool for balancing game. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. it really is fun! Archived. For example, increasing centralisation could make Nobility to rebel a little; Tech tied to money. This expansion adds some welcome content for China and Japan, but is primarily just a collection of minor enhancements and tweaks. Yes, they will help you more in EU3 than in TW or Europa Barbarorum. I've been playing singleplayer for ages now, haven't tried MP at all. Cookies help us deliver our Services. And I recommend turning off "lucky nations" in the settings (otherwise be prepared to lose every single war against France and not understand why). You are always better off starting as Castile, even if you pick Navarre and achieve the very same things (which is far more difficult). Hello! And standing around in the shower, devising grand plans.). [Feb 2011, p.117], A handful of changes don't go far enough to differentiate East from West. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. As an example we can compare Castile and Navarre at game start. Unify Japan as a powerful Daimyo, Balance the factions of China and defeat the remains of the Mongolian empire on the Russian Steppe. What's this? How is the multiplayer? What if Russia had expanded West instead of East? This is actually first game that I played where after your crashing victory against one of your enemies if you're not modest in your demands and will be to greedy, you will actually in long-term destroy yourself. Much more events feel "natural". poorly-drawn Duke. Moose! So clever politics is a must. Having said all that, there were a lot of rough edges. so worth it!! Pure essence of strategy but definitely game not for every one, and casual players won't find anything here - only Total War with no tactical battles, but hundreds of tablets and diagrams that you need to check all the time, Well, the new map layout looks pretty nice (Even if Europe looks always like a mess) and some nice additions there. Only thing I can really tell you is that EU4 is a fantastic game in its own right. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Basically I’m a huge fan of paradox games and EU4 (although I usually roleplay compared to complete blobbing) a question I have is if EU3 Complete Edition is worth playing for someone who enjoys roleplaying in EU4. There's also mods like MEIOU to freshen it up if the base game gets played out. Beat* EU3 half a dozen times. I started to play Europa Universalis 3 and I like it but now I'm thinking if I should keep playing EU 3 or just skip it and buy EU 4. I played a lot of hours of EU3 back before EU4 came out. Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.” The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense. Out of curiosity, is Victoria 2 up to the point where it's worth playing yet, or is it still horribly inferior to Vicky: R? The Blood Eagle General. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. [April 2011, p.77]. At the same time, EU4 feels like a much more detailed and realistic game (more nations, provinces, government types, religions, concepts like overextension) in many ways, and while I miss some things from EU3, it's hard to go back. Is EU:ROME still worth playing? It is improved in quite a few ways. Nov 11, 2010 3.772 199. In EU4, some countries (like Russia or the Ottomans) may find that Westernization is actually more trouble than it is worth. Expand signature. I recommend Castille for first-timers. Castile gets magical bonuses for simply being Castile and Navarre can NEVER get them. And you can always download the demo first if you're not sure. Yes it is! EU4 keeps the same feel as EU3 but you will have to dump all the EU3 playing habbits and learn how to play again from the ground up as much has been changed and in many ways improved upon. It felt like a gradual shaping of your country. The real joy is in creating a realm of historical fiction, or, more difficult, re-create history. Its a great game without a million dlcs. Since there's a thread on EU3 I may as well ask here. Is EU3 worth playing? It can be punishing, so I suggest playing with an easier nation for a first go, plus setting the game difficulty to Easy also. resulting in budget intransparency and too many unintended and unnecessary loans. For EU3, I am a huge fan of the Death and Taxes mod and I would even recommend playing that first and not touching the base game, since the mod improved on every aspect of the game. So you can't just buy the expansion you're interested in, or just get the most recent one on its own. T.j. Arnold 中国第一 Ex-Pat 日本最低. Question. There are lots of different possibilities when it comes to your nation, and you can't always steamroller over everything, because that often causes lots of people to go to war with you at once. Might seem counter-intuitive that doing nothing and waiting is better than clicking a button; Lack of instant actions in general. Whilst Paradox's matchmaking service is quite unstable, I believe Hamachi has proven as a good choice. It's easier to paint the map. "The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." Trade was simpler and more primitive, and kinda stupid, yes, but on the other hand, in EU4 trade routes look way, way too deterministic and often feel like nonsense considering their static nature; Rulers giving direct bonuses during their reign instead of just generating mana; Coring. I played EU3 recently, so without nostalgia glasses: Same thing with the mana system, where Johan once stated it was the best mechanic from Victoria 2 (???). Sep 4, 2013 @ 4:48am Yeah, EU4 is an improvement over EU3 in … Xsolla is an authorized global distributor of Paradox Interactive, EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr, I make Youtube guides for EU4, HoI4, and CK3, CK2 mod Author - Dynamic Cultural Titles (Ironman). The slight interface changes and the ability to play as the internal factions does mix things up a bit, but once the novelty of reigning over the Orient wears off, you'll wish Paradox would start working on the next entry in the series, rather than another underwhelming expansion pack. EU4 is really just that much better than EU3 in terms of player agency. Well, I bought them both and I will see which one I will play :). 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