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Schluter Kerdi Are red dwarfs really 30-100 times our Sun's density? Why are non-folding tyres still manufactured? Suited for interior and exterior substrates, RedGard® creates a continuous waterproof membrane barrier with outstanding adhesion and reduces crack transmission in tile and stone floors. I have remodeled bathroom tub enclosures that only had Greenboard Sheetrock that lasted many years but the water eventually got through and it had to be replaced. Cover the joints with KERDI-FLEX. Can vice president/security advisor or secretary of state be chosen from the opposite party? The more expensive dry mix thinsets … The second part of the product's description is why you should use it, and is (IMO, more than) half of the reason why elastomeric coatings work so well to keep an install waterproof: crack isolation. you do want the plastic to extend to the lip and a bead of silicon would make a great seal. I will be sure to seal the grout. Should it cure first? No, it won’t interfere with the performance or adversely effect it. We chose DensShield for its better environmental attributes. And maybe some State codes will even allow it that way. epoxy or marine paint over greenboard for my shower walls (not tile). It's a super think waterproofer that we slightly water downed until it was a consistency of paint. I have faith in you. Ceramic Tile: A Five-Scenario Showdown. I have had contractors suggest Kerdi/Schulter, Red Guard and Durock, KBRS. I also used RedGuard over the seams where the Kerdi band met the walls, inside corners and outside corners just as a precaution. I’ve been using them for years and haven’t and one problem. Home Improvement Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for contractors and serious DIYers. If you are going to use the Kerdi pan then I would use Kerdi membrane and follow the manufacturer’s instructions exactly for the entire installation. Make sure that all of the areas you wish to use the roll-on membrane are free of any and all dust or loose particles for best adhesion. It's recommended for waterproofing niches, shelves, and entire shower walls when tar paper or poly are not used as a vapor barrier behind the CBU. To suggest someone do it as a DIY? I also read that DensShield backerboard has a waterproof layer over gypsum core. .. all great products, are *coatings*, not actual physical membranes. Schluter (Kerdi), Laticrete (Hydroban) and Custom Building Products (Redgard) all make pre-sloped shower bases. Overall, the system worked well but I would not recommend using this system if you have not had experience with installing … What is a good example of a project to use to demonstrate how to build a Microsoft Project Schedule, Small bore trombone in philharmonic orchestra - Berlioz symphonie fantastique, How to simulate performance volume levels in MIDI playback. 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