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</html>";s:4:"text";s:37600:"Shop Kia vehicles for sale at Cars.com. after parking up, on the return trip the pulling to the right had stopped but now the steering wheel instead of the spokes being level when the car is driving straight is displaced with the spokes … +1 (407)645-1234. 11 Steering problem. The contact was able to drive to his residence. STEERING COLUMN HOUSING ... (MDPS) Motor, Electronic Control Unit (ECU) or Steering Column Housing on the Kia models listed on the chart below with a column mounted C-MDPS unit. ... quality cars … Follow the MDPS Flowchart (page 2) along with ... Optima (TF) 2011 – 2015 Optima (QF) 2012 – 2015 If your battery no longer has enough charge to turn the starter, your Optima will not start. Kia is recalling the 2014-2016 Kia Soul and Soul EV because previous recalls didn’t work. A month ago, the new one started to peel also. To see how frequently Kia Optima problems occur, check out our car reliability stats. Contact your nearest Kia dealer as soon as possible to have the system checked. The technician diagnosed that the yoke in the steering box was fractured and needed to be replaced. Battery Charge. Research the 2020 Kia Optima with our expert reviews and ratings. Ignition switch removal on 2009 KIA Optima Need to know how to remove ignition switch. The 2006 and 2007 year Optima have a large number of engine failure issues, while the 2013 and 2014 models have high numbers of steering problems. The engine problems come down to two issues: poor manufacturing that prematurely wears out the engine and engine fires. Recalls of 2017-2018 Kia Optima Hybrid and 2017 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid sedans are underway to address an issue with the affected vehicles' gasoline engines. Not really making noise yet. To narrow down your search please use the dropdown box above, or select from one of the available vehicles in the list below. There are quite a few different complaints here from the steering wheel being stiff to failing entirely, but the most common points to a clicking sound coming from the steering column . The engine problems come down to two issues: poor manufacturing that prematurely wears out the engine and engine fires. I will have my mechanic take a look at it tomorrow. And car follows camber. Kia Soul Recall #1. Leaking fuel may increase the risk of vehicle fires, which is why Kia issued a recall for affected vehicles. The dealer (beck & masten kia, 25503 tomball pkwy, tomball, tx 77377) was contacted. Kia Optima Suspension Problems. Steering problems, such as pulling to one side, sticking at highway speed, or clicking when the steering wheel is turned garnered 133 NHTSA complaints. Kia has always enjoyed popularity for its affordable vehicles, which offerunderstated reliability. Description of the Complaint: The contact owns a 2015 kia optima. ... Loose-feeling steering may also indicate that a problem has occurred with the steering unit or suspension. General Inspection. Research the 2021 Kia K5 with our expert reviews and ratings. ; 2003: Not only was the KIA Optima redesigned body, but the the 4-cylinder manual transmission was discontinued.. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic who referred the contact to a dealer. $84.99. ... Raise steering column and install mounting fasteners. The contact also stated that when the vehicle drove over a bump in the roadway, there was a rattling sound coming from the vehicle. Kia Optima. It also has an excellent depreciation rate of just 37% after five years and a five-year resale value of $13,614 (assuming a selling price of $21,521), according to CarEdge.com. The contact owns a 2012 Kia Optima. Steering Problems. While driving 65 mph, the steering wheel locked up and the vehicle could not be steered. Is there any fix to 2013 kia optima steering problems.it has had multiple alignments new tires and still requires non stop correction when driving to keep it going straight. Since then, Kia has made a 180-degree turn. After bleeding the PS system on my 2002 Kia Optima, I recommend the following bleeding protocol suggested by GM. Every vehicle has a unique VIN. The recall began January 17, 2019. We have 1268 free PDF’s spread across 33 Kia Vehicles. The good news is you don’t need to have the entire steering column or intermediate shaft replaced as most people think. On my dad’s 2007/8 Optima he was able to use keys to open doors w/o issue, stick key in and out (without turning) of the ignition w/o issue but was not able able to turn the key and steering wheel was locked with the Kia symbol on wheel turned to … The worst complaints are engine, steering, and body / paint problems. The worst complaints are steering pulls to the side, steering sticks at highway speeds, and loud knocking. Kia Optima 2013, Inner Steering Tie Rod End by Delphi®. Learn more about the 2016 Kia Optima. 3. Also, even the Kia Soul manual (with EPS) states: "When the vehicle is stationary, when the steering wheel is turned all the way to the left or right continuously, the steering wheel becomes harder to turn. If enough of it has leaked out, your Optima will no longer have enough to properly function. The place to start looking for what is making your steering wheel hard to turn is the power steering fluid. If you haven't heard of or experienced this problem, essentially there's a $3 plastic coupler inside of our steering column assembly that will completely disintegrate over time. The vehicle was taken to redding Kia (888-778-5635, located at 418 E cypress ave, redding, ca 96002) and kept for diagnostic testing while the contact was provided a loaner vehicle. How to deal with a locked steering wheel. Every 2013 Kia Optima family sedan offers Bluetooth phone connectivity, iPod/USB audio connectivity, steering-wheel-mounted audio controls and a cooling glove box that keeps drinks chilled. The dealer and manufacturer were not made aware of the failure. Tl the contact owns a 2013 kia Optima. 2. As time passes, the steering wheel return to its normal condition." The 2011 Kia Optima’s second most common complaint is in the steering department, with 96 total registered in this category. Owners may contact Kia customer service at 1-800-333-4542. This could be caused by the deterioration of this small flexible coupler located in the steering column. ... Had an extended unlimited mileage warranty put out by Kia for the steering wheel coupler needing replacement. Seems to be a common problem. The problem: In affected Kia Optima vehicles, a condition may exist where drivers may feel a “notchy” or “slipping” condition when turning the steering wheel. This is due to either a software glitch in the Optima’s electronic steering system or a faulty power steering motor assembly. How to deal with a locked steering wheel. Website. 1970 State Road 436, Winter Park, FL 32792. my kia optima 2012 missfired stopped on road.Called mechanic he said engine seized. The third generation Kia Optima (2010-2015) debuted at the 2010 New York Auto Show and shared platform with Hyundai i40. Micki-Mike Major steering problem with the Optima that Kia wont take responsibility for. Hyundai engine wear and Kia engine wear. The issue seems to be in the steering column. The cars are from the 2006 through 2008 model years and … EPS motor magnets and brushes are junk. Every used car for sale comes with a free CARFAX Report. During the engine machining process, Hyundai and Kia engines were not cleaned properly. A vehicle's Kia Optima Power Steering Hose is a high pressure hose that transports power steering fluid from the fluid container to the power steering rack to make it easier to steer your vehicle. It referred to … Kia issued a second safety recall in 2017 on certain 2014-2016 Kia Souls due to a steering problem caused by a faulty pinion plug. This is the most common reason that the power steering stops working. 2013 Kia Optima Steering Consumer Complaints Complaint Number: 11389371 Incident Date: December 3, 2020 Date Added to File: January 22, 2021 Description of the Complaint: I have a clicking sound in the steering wheel. Kia Optima 2.0L / 2.4L 2013, Rack and Pinion Assembly by Genuine®. Steering wheel is hard to turn Inspection. the bolt that goes through the hose fitting has a hole through it.....does that have to be lined up with the line ... Another great insight to what may be the problem. The car is a 2013 Kia Optima EX with 36k miles. A smart key battery should last for several years, but if the smart key is not working properly, try replacing the battery with a new one. Kia Motors America is recalling the vehicles to address a fire problem in the ABS system of these two vehicles. 2011 Kia Optima - My steering wheel started to peel last year and the dealer replaced it. Want Answer 0. Praised for its longevity and performance, the used Kia Optima is a common request at our Kia dealer in FL. $111 - $142. The reason I have no problems with it is because I maintain it as advised by the manufacturer. Should you have difficulty turning the ignition switch to the ACC position, turn the key while turning the steering wheel right and left to release the tension. Clicking in steering wheel of 2013 Optima with 22,600 miles on it purchased from Southwest KIA, Mesquite, Texas, in 2012.. ; 2002: The Optima now offers a keyless entry as well as an upgraded V6 engine. 11071835. Its got to the point that the wife wont drive it now on any runs longer than 5 miles. You do not need 4 wheel alignment check just toe in check. Hello everyone. ... and excessive steering wheel vibrations. November 13, 2015 / 7:57 AM / AP. Flexible Steering Coupling Steering Column MDPS Motor For Sonata Elantra Santa Fe Azera Veloster Kia Soul Optima Forte Cadenza Replaces 56330-4Z000 563152K000FFF 2 pcs 4.8 out of 5 stars 256 1 offer from $5.99 Even the automaker claims that the new models are “driven to stand out.”. The machining left metal shavings in the engine. In August 2016, Kia Motors America issued Technical Service Bulletin CHA 072 for Kia TF Optima vehicles manufactured from 12 August 2010 to 18 December 2013. Kia Optima DL3 2019-2021 Owner's Manual: Battery replacement. In these vehicles, the flexible coupling in the motor-driven power steering (MDPS) may prematurely wear and cause a ‘clicking’ noise to be heard when the vehicle is stationary and the steering wheel is turned. If the key won’t turn in the ignition, it could be for a couple of reasons: Often this happens when the steering is locked by the ignition lock with the front wheels turned aside or when one of the front wheels is pushed against something. A squealing noise could also be caused by a lack of lubrication in the steering system, worn tie rods, or bad ball joints or bushings. Also, see repair breakdown by problem area and cost. It shouldn’t be having these sorts of problems. Quantity: 1 per Pack. If you have any questions about Safety Recalls, please contact your preferred Kia Dealer or call Kia Consumer Affairs at 1-800-333-4KIA (4542) Monday through Friday, 5 AM to 6 PM PST. Having a steering wheel that is hard to turn is a pretty scary problem to have with your car. Check Engine Light Diagnosis & Testing. The contact stated while driving 55 mph, the electric power steering (eps) warning light was illuminated, and the steering wheel became difficult to turn. This free video shows you how to fix minor power steering leaks on a 2004 Kia Optima EX 2.7L V6 - if your steering wheel is difficult to turn, you may have a power steering fluid leak in your 2004 Kia Optima EX 2.7L V6 This electric power-assisted rack and pinion steering has relatively high gearing, requiring just 2.69 turns of the wheel from lock-to-lock. I just noticed that there is some slack in the steering now. See real-world Kia Optima suspension problems and repair histories as reported by other Kia Optima owners. The worst complaints are accessories - interior, engine, and windows / windshield problems. A Kia Optima Power Steering Pump Replacement costs between $629 and $654 on average. Would u say it’s probably the EPS motor coupling? Servicing the power steering system (pump, pressure hose, return hose) on a 2002 Kia Optima V6 When I noticed fluid leaking out of the top power steering hose, I had no idea how difficult servicing the power steering system on my 2002 Kia Optima was going to be. 4) Rotate the steering wheel more than ±180°(Left and right) from the center position The recall is planned to begin on July 27, 2018. Also, even the Kia Soul manual (with EPS) states: "When the vehicle is stationary, when the steering wheel is turned all the way to the left or right continuously, the steering wheel becomes harder to turn. Research, compare, and save listings, or contact sellers directly from 10,000+ Kia models nationwide. Power Steering Fluid Low. Kia Optima. To save fuel and deliver responsive handling in everyday driving, new Kia cee'd retains Kia's Motor Driven Power Steering system (MDPS). The indicator on the button will illuminate. Kia Optima Discontinued after the 2020 model year, the Optima lives on today as the excellent K5 described above. Many Hyundai and Kia vehicle owners are noticing a clicking noise when turning their steering wheel. $97.64 - $107.14. Comment; There are four recalls affecting the 2011 Optima. Service type. YAHOO NEWS -- March 11, 2011 – Kia Motors is recalling more than 70,000 Optima midsize sedans to fix transmission problems that can cause the cars to roll even while they're in park. One of the most troublesome 2013-2014 Kia Optima problems is the inadequate pressure of its fuel hose, which may develop cracks and leaks. A vehicle can be driven with leaking power steering components, but you'll need to make sure there's enough fluid for the system to function. 2011 is one of the worst years for the Kia Optima. Remove the mechanical key. For the power steering to work you need a very slight Toe In. Kia Optima Bad Wheel Bearing Diagnosis. Clicking this will make more experts see the question and we will remind you when it gets answered. Kia's number for this recall is SC172. The parts and labor required for this service are ... How it works; Services. 143,000 miles. The system should be bled any time a power steering component has been replaced, a fluid line disconnected, or for moaning and groaning noises. The MDPS unit may experience noise when turning the steering wheel left or right, especially while the vehicle is after changing the top power steering hose on a 2003 kia optima it makes a grinding noise now at the pump. Posted by Anonymous on Feb 18, 2015. The part was back ordered. DETROIT - Kia is recalling more than 256,000 Soul compact SUVs in the U.S. because the steering could fail. Consumers hoping to find a quality mid-size car are often drawn to the style of the 2018 Kia Optima. As time passes, the steering wheel return to its normal condition." Failure Date: 09/28/2021. We’ve been in business for 30 years, and we are looking forward to serving the … Find the best Kia Optima for sale near you. Also fits 2005, 2003, 2002 & 2001. Welcome to Auffenberg Kia of Cape Girardeau. Oxygen Sensor Replacement. Optima. How to find your Kia Workshop or Owners Manual. Also please check out the statistics and reliability analysis of Kia Motor Optima based on all … degree of effort will be required to operate the steering. Kia also decided to extend its warranty to all 2011-2014 Optima owners with 2.0 or 2.4-liter GDI engines to 10 years or 120,000 miles – in other words, it did a silent recall. 1) First, insert your key into the ignition switch and turn it without too much force. Kia Optima Steering wheel feels loose Inspection costs between $80 and $100 on average. Integral to its ride, handling and safety, a vehicle's steering system is an intricate network of linked components. Find popular Kia models such as the Sorento, Soul, Optima, and Sportage, among others right here at Auffenberg Kia of Cape Girardeau. In addition to the engine issues, 2013 Optimas are known to experience steering problems, with the cars pulling to one side or the … ... To summarize, I suggest you consider your skills and patience before undertaking work on the Kia Optima power steering system. Impossible to keep the car strait down the road, especially at higher speeds Great car if the steering wasn't a safety issue. When: Kia will begin notifying owners on Dec. 22.! There is no doubt that Kia had a poor reputation two decades ago, in part due to frequent automatic transmission problems. The 2013 Kia Optima has 163 NHTSA complaints for the steering at 41,839 miles average. The KIA Optima Timeline 2000-2001: The KIA Optima makes its debut and offers drivers several trim levels as well as the choice of a 4 and 6-cylinder engine. The dealer didnt seem at all interested in the problem of having to keep correcting the steering on a run. Edmunds also has Kia K5 pricing, MPG, specs, pictures, safety features, consumer reviews and more. There was the … 1. To prevent problems … Steering wheel lightly shakes when speeding over 70mph, no clicking noise. Its got to the point that the wife wont drive it now on any runs longer than 5 miles. Test Drive – The best way to diagnose bearing noise in your Optima is to take it for a drive. With the ENGINE START/STOP button in the ON position, pressing the heated steering wheel button warms the steering wheel. You can also schedule an appointment online from your preferred dealership’s webpage (if available), or call the dealership. I drove around for a few months with this leaking because the Kia Dealership wanted $149.00 for this hose. Kia Optima: Heated steering wheel. The 2013 Kia Optima has 1295 problems & defects reported by Optima owners. While driving approximately 60 mph over a bump in the road, a rattling noise was heard from the steering wheel. The dealer didnt seem at all interested in the problem of having to keep correcting the steering on a run. Kia owners state that the car begins to pull in one direction. $318 - $336. Low power steering fluid or other problems with the power steering system could also cause a squealing noise when you turn the wheel. 2. Get a free detailed estimate for a repair in your area. Enter a VIN to learn if a specific vehicle needs to be repaired as part of a recall. Common problems with the Kia Optima include steering issues and engine failure, as of 2015. ... 2011 Kia Optima. Although Motor Trend reported no issues with its long-term 2013 Kia Optima, the 2013 model actually has more complaints than the 2011 model. It has serious engine problems which lead to failures around 100,000 miles. These issues were corrected, and the vehicle would still pull. The 2019 Kia Optima is considered a lower-budget vehicle, so no one expects that the engine will produce the same power as a supercar. Incident Date: January 4, 2018. BLEEDING THE POWER STEERING Aerated fluid will result in noise from the power steering pump. Estimate. A Kia Optima Power Steering Pump Replacement costs between $629 and $654 on average. Install lower portion of dash. The power assist is limited to protect the motor from overheating. This information may be used by NHTSA during the investigation process. The power assist is limited to protect the motor from overheating. The problem: When turning the steering wheel, it may feel like the wheel is sticking in different positions. Doesn't - Answered by a verified Kia Mechanic ... the concrete surface is rougher and most likely would not pick up a run out problem. Unfortunately, many owners were told that the problem was alignment or tires. ... Paddle shifter on steering wheel: ceased functioning. I have a 2006.5 Kia Optima that has a vibration in the steering wheel on blacktop at highway speeds (55mph). However, owners do expect some level of reliability that they are not getting. The most recently reported issues are listed below. Electric Power Steering (EPS) Warning Light* The Electronic Power Steering (EPS) warning light will illuminate when the ignition switch is turned to the ON position and will go out within a few seconds. Electrical, engine and powertrain issues among the top complaints received by the NHTSA from vehicle owners. Steering problem prompts big Kia recall. The automaker claims no accidents have been reported because of the steering wheel problem to date! The Kia Optima sedan and Sorento SUV are being recalled, Consumer Reports says. Problems with the Engine. The cars are from the 2006 through 2008 model years and … Kia is recalling nearly 52,000 units of its boxy Soul crossover vehicle to repair a steering issue! (Page 1 of 9) Show example Kia Optima Steering wheel is hard to turn Inspection prices. This database includes information received by NHTSA from consumers either directly or as recorded by the Vehicle Safety Hotline. Report a safety problem Find recalls by VIN. Kia Motors America, Inc. would like to thank you for your purchase of a Kia Optima vehicle. The contact owns a 2014 kia Optima. During the engine machining process, Hyundai and Kia engines were not cleaned properly. The field data for Theta GDI engine claims for the 2011-2014 Sportage and Sorento vehicles was also rising – although by not as much as the Optima. It is a right pain to have to correct it all the time. The organization had already opened a defect investigation related to engine problems for the Kia Optima, Sorento, and Sportage for model years 2011 through 2014 back in 2017. The indicator on the button will turn off. CarComplaints also considers the 2013 Optima to be one to avoid. Kia's number for this recall is SC165. Choose top quality brands A1 Cardone, AC Delco, Aisin, Atlantic Automotive, BBB Industries, Mando, Maval, PWR Steer. Our used car dealership in FL carries your favorite models, like the dynamic used Kia Optima. The 2013 Optima's steering problem is keeping the wheel consistently centered. To turn the steering wheel off, press the button once again. ... reviews if you're trying to … After or before servicing the EPS system, perform the troubleshooting and test procedure as follows. We review every problem as we work to keep our roads safe. Get a free detailed estimate for a repair in your area. [The car’s] pinion plugs can allow the pinion gears to separate from the steering gear assemblies. Steering problems occur most often in the 2013 Optima. Buy a 2004 Kia Optima Power Steering Pump at discount prices. The colder tyres may be highlighting a border line problem. About 139,500 Hyundai Sonatas from the 2011 model year have been recalled due to steering problems that could cause a loss of control. Steering Wheel Vibrates. If the key turns, then the steering wheel will be unlocked. The first recall was issued in 2015, but the manufacturer determined further repairs may be needed [1]. Auto mechanic stated it was an issue with the bushing of the steering column and it needed to be replaced. See real-world Kia Optima electrical problems and repair histories as reported by other Kia Optima owners. Steering problems have been identified in several Kia models, including 2011-2014 Kia Optima vehicles. The remainder of the warranty under this new term length then transfers to the new owner. Still, your vehicle’s factory-issue parts will wear out over years of use, diminishing its performance until driving it becomes a pain or even dangerous. My Key will not turn switch - Kia 2009 Optima LX question ... 2006 kia optima electrical problems via ignition switch rebuild. If the key turns, then the steering wheel will be unlocked. 2014 Kia Optima the key won’t turn in the ignition. Kia's precise MDPS 'electric' power steering. The 2019 Kia Sorento has 117 problems & defects reported by Sorento owners. Less expensive problems include steering noises and headlight bulbs burning out quickly. You’ll be looking to hear the hum increase as the speed picks up. Close. 2014 Kia Optima | Kia. YAHOO NEWS -- March 11, 2011 – Kia Motors is recalling more than 70,000 Optima midsize sedans to fix transmission problems that can cause the cars to roll even while they're in park. Owners may contact Kia customer service at 1-800-333-4542. 2011-2014 Kia Optima Steering Issue. We have 4,765 Kia Optima vehicles for sale that are reported accident free, 3,511 1-Owner cars, and 5,558 personal use cars. Without a toe in the steering does not centre and you have to fight direction all the time. Summary: Kia Motors America (Kia) is recalling certain 2010-2013 Kia Forte, Forte Koup, 2011-2013 Kia Optima and 2011-2012 Kia Optima Hybrid and Sedona vehicles. Car problem(s) with the 2012 KIA OPTIMA. MadMax. 2 Steering problem of the 2014 Kia Motor Optima. Hyundai engine wear and Kia engine wear. The first problem was that the top "pressure hose" was leaking. Should you have difficulty turning the ignition switch to the ACC position, turn the key while turning the steering wheel right and left to release the tension. See our lemon odds and nada odds page to see vehicles with no repairs or vehicles with more than three repairs. Get 2016 Kia Optima values, consumer reviews, safety ratings, and find cars for sale near you. It has a sleek design and is hailed as a reliable option. Separately, NHTSA is also probing 41,000 2007 Kia Optima models over complaints that the automatic transmission shift cable may detach from the shifter assembly. Jack and Wiggle – With your Optima on jack stands, you’ll want to look and see if the wheel is wiggling at the bearing. The problem: In affected Kia Optima vehicles, a condition may exist where drivers may feel a “notchy” or “slipping” condition when turning the steering wheel. It was offered in base LX, upscale EX, and sporty SX trim levels as well as a Hybrid model and a Turbo model. 48000 mi: Backup camera was slow to run; showed lines but no picture for up to 30 sec : I heard of a Technical Service Bulletin (that I cannot find). this engine everyone complaints Replaced engine used one.kia should recall immidiatly to put knock senssor as dealership needs paper for proof.More than $ 4000/ paid kia settlement dept.shouid accept his fault & immidiately pay compensation to the consumer. (Vehicle drift problem) How to calibrate the torque sensor (Very Important) 1) Ignition key ON (engine off) and set the steering wheel on the center (neutral) position. The contact stated that while driving making a left or right turn, a clicking sound occurred coming from the steering wheel. Kia Optima: Repair procedures. 1) First, insert your key into the ignition switch and turn it without too much force. Kia Optima. The machining left metal shavings in the engine. Suspension Ball Joint Replacement. Just driven to town and noticed that the steering was pulling to the right which needed pressure to the left for straight ahead. Steering Problem on the 2012 KIA OPTIMA. Edmunds also has Kia Optima pricing, MPG, specs, pictures, safety features, consumer reviews and … 1. Kia's limited powertrain warranty switches to a shorter version of the warranty when the car is sold. Kia Motor Optima owners have reported 50 problems related to engine burning oil (under the engine and engine cooling category). Just look at this NHTSA complaint. Kia Soul Reliability and Common Problems. 2) Connect the scanner 3) Enter into the ‘ASP calibration’ menu on the scanner. “The contact owns a 2019 Kia Optima. What Problems Does the 2011 Kia Optima Have? If you are unsure how to use your smart key or replace the battery, contact an authorized Kia dealer. It is a right pain to have to correct it all the time. ... Can I drive with a power steering pump problem? Perfect for beginning and teen drivers, the Kia Soul is known for its reliability, user-friendly features, and fuel efficiency. Will shortly be repaired on warranty. MARCH 2017 -- Kia Motors America (Kia) is recalling certain 2017 Niro vehicles. The affected vehicles may have a damaged Motor Driven Power Steering (MDPS) connector resulting in a loss of electric power steering assistance. 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