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</html>";s:4:"text";s:27801:"Driving and average of 55-60 mph I am getting around 7 mpg with our Ford V10. We”ve been very pleased with it! Most gasoline is E-10, pure 100% gasoline will easily improve the mileage by 1 mpg. It has 10,000 miles and I took a trip from fl to Il and back Maybe I'd improve mileage a bit with new plugs, but my concern is finding a technician with the knowhow to replace the plugs without causing problems. And repaired the running boards/flares. There is an O2 sensor and it is located in the exhaust, not the intake. The millage I covered was 276.4 on the GPS and 276.2 on the fords speedometer. cruising at 65 mph i get approx 6.5 – 7.0 mpg if i step it up to 72mph its only a little less, closer to to 6.5mpg. The beer is cheaper then fuel and you use less of it. but the cost of diesel is probably about 25% more also. My neighbor had the v-10 and lost 2 motors before he found out they were plugged. They are 99,8% in some sort of Park/Storage, most RVs never see 100.000 miles before they get 20 years old. Fortunately maintenance costs should remain low on this engine, unless it starts blowing spark plugs (I hear they’ve fixed that now?). I think some mandated fuel economy standards in this case would actually be of benefit, as customer demand has not convinced the manufacturers to design for economy. We own a 40ft (WAY TOO BIG) Coachman Brookstone 5th wheel and a 2015 GMC 2500HD Diesel crew cab and average about 7.5 – 8 mpg with mixed driving in 2015. Our friends had a 37 foot travel trailer and a diesel truck and averaged about 10.4 MPG. Prices are down but individual consumption is up. The closest station that sells diesel near me in Anderson, IN has regular at 2.85 and diesel at 2.69. We have just acquired a 2010 Damon Avanti 3106, we tour around playing music so it’s a nifty tour bus. Also avoiding tailgaters sapping your rear is a must. Whether the mileage increase is worth the extra price for the premium gas will depend on your vehicle. We just bought a Newmar 3333. Nikki and Jason, There are many different ways to perform a repair, a permanent one requires the spark plug to be held in with more than the original 4 thread. other than that I can’t really say anything to negative. I love driving it…taking care of it…everything involving it…have not gone on any long distance trips yet…just local campgrounds to figure the thing out…have a trip planned in August to see the kids in Washington and Oregon…I’m located in Arkansas… Anyway…I have run a couple of tanks of gas through it and I’m getting an average 7.8 mpg driving up and down I40 towing a Jeep Wrangler with a car dolly (moving to a flat tow style in a couple of weeks)…so I guess it’s doing about average…glad to hear this…love your videos and articles…you have helped me soooo much….keep em coming…. Love your videos,please know they are very,very helpful and fun to watch.I guess I missed the part when you switched from your diesel pusher to your new gas Bounder.Why did you switch? We travel with minimum water and even fill the gas only when I feel we have too, to conserve weight. We will share the MPG’s once we get it but we’ve heard and read that it should get between 9-11 mpg’s. We average about 17mpg. We have a 2004 Damon Challenger with the older V10 and we took a 3,600+ mile trip the last half of July. It’s easier to swallow the pill of poor MPG by thinking of it as a house you haul around rather than a car. So, if price is a concern to me it makes more sense to travel less and it also means less spewing of fumes. Last summer we drove out west through Colorado, Utah, Grand Canyon, Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, etc. I worked at Ford IT in Dearborn for seven years. Hi . Only problem is its expensive to buy and install around 4200.00, I run 2 step vans- 20012, 2014 with the 3 valve v-10. Well, I pull a “Classy A – Frame” It weights 2000lbs in the rain ! I’m currently looking at motorhomes on the Ford Transit chasis. We’re excitedly awaiting the future of big rigs, I know it will come eventually ð. they checked engine and transmission and reported back to me “THAT’S THE WAY IT’S DESIGNED IT WILL DO THAT THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WE CAN FIND”, So my quest for info is, I would like to hear from some people with Class A motorhomes with the ford V10 what is you performance like do you wish at time you had a diesel? Hi, really like your website, loads of valuable information and opinion! I don’t have an RV but have been a follower of your posts from the beginning. Good news is the price per gallon is a little bit lower than Alaska Fuel Prices due to the US dollar being about 30% stronger than the Canadian Dollar. Jason, I would like to get your take on how the three different RV’s handled. We just got back 10 days ago from a 4 1/2-week trek around the western U.S. stopping at as many major sites along the way as we could fit in, many days only staying in each location 1 night. once again Thanks for all the videos and keep them coming. The only sensors on the intake tract that tell the engine how much gas to “pump” into your engine are the MAF and IAT. You guys really need to get Fleetwood to trade out your Bounder for the same exact model with the 6-speed so we can get an awesome head to head review of the differences ;). Thanks Alan, towables are such a different world which we know nothing about, thanks for sharing. We always wonder if we are even operating in a normal range for the engine, weight, and driving speed. Ours has an AT, RWD. Please do as your Dad said. Would also love a comparison by you guys of your impressions on the handling and driving comfort of your former diesel Fleetwood Excursion and your new gas Bounder. 4 gallons filled to the neck of the filler combination of what was put in at the gas station and what I put in it today. Ford V10 Triton Engine Problems This engine represents large evolution of design Fords V10 6.8 litre (413 cubic inch) engine used with the F53 motorhome chassis (‘A ‘class), and the E450 chassis (‘C ‘class), is part of the company’s “Modular” engine family. The difference is $1248 more per year for the gasser if you are going 20,000 miles. Gives us ideas of places to go. My father always used to tell folks that he got around 30-35 MPG in our 40 ft Class A motorhome. We use the generator very little since we have 2500 watt solar and 8 house batteries. 32,000 lb and same 4200lb toad getting the SAME MPG. If you’re going to quote the Indiana price on one type of gas, quote it on the other, as well. . Thanks for sharing. I’m guessing about $60,000!!!! I won’t be taking trips out west with the thing. but have yet to pull the trigger on one. We usually drive around 62 mph if we’re on interstates, 55 otherwise. You guys are great! We have an 07 Providence with a 350 Caterpiller. I think that's a pretty good balance of age and miles for an RV. Steve excellent right up, Your 100% correct if diesel continues to be 30 to 50 cents per gallon more, it’s a wash on I have a 2016 Thor 32 foot Hurricane. Use it as a van and a towing vehicle too. After hanging out on RV forums discussing MPG for four years, I have learned that most class A motorhomes get 5-10 mpg with a few outliers in the 11-16 mpg range if small diesel models (View, Vesta, etc). There is a guy on the IRV2 forums that has bought more motorhomes on the last couple years than most do in a lifetime. I have a Silverado and I go from 11 to 9mpg when the switch happens in late fall and back up in early fall. Dd13 liter 10 speed manual .my yearly average is 7.7 hauling 80,000.it. I had never stayed in a paid campground till I was in my late 30s. Just love all these stories of hope and inspiration. My last check I got 8.1 u.s. mpg with some generator use (45 min?). Figured it was the wind. Our gal. Take your time, stay a few days in each location, enjoy the trip and the experience. Somewhere in Florida for the winter. Even way back in the 99 V10, that only had 4 threads in the aluminum heads to hold the plugs in, after many studys, it was found that errors removing & reinstalling the new plugs, was what created the blown out plug problems. I just found your site today and really enjoy it. When your looking at right around a $10,000 difference between gas and diesel plus the price per gallon, the break even point may never be reached. With that diesel engines will last longer. Why is this comment dated June 25, when the above article appears to be dated November 5th ? So our combined weight is around 28,000 pounds. xx Happy trails. I saw you on the local news. Diesel is the only way to go with something this size I think. Alas, all to no avail. If you’ve guessed weâre not too happy with these numbers, trust me, you’ve guessed right! Itâs a real bummer that gas RVs donât get near the fuel economy as a diesel motorhomeâ¦but theyâre a lot less expensive so most people say it comes out in the wash. We have loads of thoughts on Gas vs. Diesel RVs which weâve shared in this article if youâre interested: RV Smackdown â Diesel vs Gas and we have updates with our Bounder/Gas RV performance thoughts soon! Do the total ownership cost math on the diesels. I have a F350 Super Duty truck with that engine that has 155,000 miles on it. Finally… someone who knows what they are talking about. This is considered a class C motor home and is certainly less roomy that the big class A’s and many class C’s, but it’s just me and my two pups. Wynns… so give us the difference in dollars spent between the Bounder and the equivalent dollars you would have spent in the Excursion. Wasn’t at all happy with 5 MPG! Plus because it is only about 19.5 ft. long, it is legal to park on city streets. Also if you feel as though your engine cannot keep up with other V-10’s I would recommend you look at your catalytic converters. We have a 2006 Winnebago Voyage 38J. His reported mpg numbers look encouraging. Iâve driven Ford trucks and pulled travel trailers for years. Has anyone try to use a chip to get better milage? yep, it’s a bummer we can’t have comfort plus 20mpg! We live in Colorado and on I-70 there is a whirlpool in the fuel tank (gallons per mile) when climbing Vail Pass or the eastbound tunnel approach. Traveling from the Indian Territory of Oklahoma to Rutherfordton North Carolina, Troy Montana, and Crater Of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas we average slightly less than 7 MPG. or .31 cents per mile . They want to know where you live if you stop paying for it so they can come over and repossess it. We just bought a used Challenger, 34 ft. and a Jeep Liberty to tow behind. Since traveling from AZ to PA, plus flat towing a Honda Fit, we’ve averaged 14.1 mpg. Wow! Late to the party but if you want diesel like performance then get the Triton V10 centrifugal supercharger added. 70 to 75 mph 15 to 16 mpg. Let’s say Orlando to LA, then up to Seattle and back to LA then back to FL. My close friends have D Pushers about the same length but weigh more on the D chassis. Ford is finally going to a 6-speed transmission on MY 2016 chassis, none on the market yet though. After a couple of years I traded for a Winnebago/Itasca Navion iQ. That is really hard to believe! Much of our driving has been mountains/hills, but even when we were in flat Florida we only saw around 7 mpg. Too hard to understand after 3 times reading it. I’ve been averaging a bit over 8 towing. Looking forward to your write-up on the overall performance of your Fleetwood Bounder. In spite of the various claims on the internet, higher octane fuel has one purpose and that is to reduce preignition. My only question is, (what is the downside to leaving them in? So I watch gas prices, and try to stay at 2250 RPM ( I find RPM not Speed is the better indicator for MPG) and hope I don’t have to run my gen to cool down the whole coach (100 degrees in humid Mississippi, Georgia, and Louisiana will make you turn that gen on for a/c cooling….) As such, the big mill was found in ¾ and 1-ton pickups, medium-duty vans, van cutaways, and chassis cabs. It was warm enough we had to run the dash AC a bit, but not too much. We climbed several hills en-route and we battled some strong crosswinds through most of the Midwest. I did run the generator for a few hours during this time (I had to test it to make sure it worked) but I have not notated the hours or adjusted for the fuel used, I’m assuming it’s only a teeny fraction of a gallon difference for the overall MPG. We started out flat towing a Jeep Wrangler, but now have an enclosed trailer. Best of luck. We have a 2003 Georgetown on a workhorse chassis with the chevy 8.0L gasser. LOL. Blue book val looks about right. I am anxiously awaiting your impressions of the handling of the Bounder as compared to your previous RV’s. Of course fuel prices can fluctuate widely, but I found that by using Gasbuddy on a recent cross-country trip I could purchase diesel for $2 – $2.15/gallon. Glad you guys are back in WiFi connect and getting your post out more consistently. Have food for two plus weeks and drag a VW beetle on a car dollie behind. Repair cost was $13,500 and Cummins wouldn’t even talk about warranty. Note: many years ago, I slept in it 5 days a week – from May of one year to February of the next year. We often used “winter” fuel while in the Colorado Mountains. It has great power and is a very smooth running engine. Average is about 10-10.5. I don't think they have any other issues (although that's an inconvenient one), other than the bad fuel mileage that you would expect from a large gas engine. My monaco loaded w highs in at 35,000 lbs and my toad is a yukon denali which is 4,500 lbs and I get 7.2 mpg on average going at 65 mph. According to your figures you are using about 25% more gallons of fuel…. We’ll be hitting Michigan first, then heading across to Alaska. Even a diesel isn’t going to get much more than 9. We have always found they are a little off so we always do the math ourselves. I will give you another perspective. I was interested in how you’re feeling about your gas rig. We also us a lot of back roads and two lane roads to see more things which help with the fuel economy. We have a 2000 Damon Intruder (36′) gas Class A that we have driven all over the U.S. Our lowest MPG was approx. keep up the good work! We got 8.9 mpg from Florida to Texas after we took delivery. Cost per mile is influenced most by fuel price and your vehicle’s mpg. Motor on friends! I drive a Sprinter van for work daily. Good luck. I average 18 on this one, highway @ 21, but it’s a daily driver, getting only slightly less MPG than my convertible so I can take them interchangeably when I am driving far. SAVED 50% OVER FLYING OR DRIVING A CAR, NO HOTELS CHARGES AND ALL FOOD ON BOARD. What kind of headers did you put in, anyother mod did you make to get more mgp. Monitor the traffic ahead and the signals to reduce braking. In fact, it will give you LESS performance. Are motor home has 100,000 miles on it and runs like a top, I stay on top of the maintenance which I can do because of it being a gas. Or don’t go. Apparently the motorhome buying public does not want to pay for streamlining. i was surprized that mountains and flat driving was not that different, but it was less then the flats. Pretty much a tank of gas without moving. 24mpg at 60mph and 22mpg at 72mph. 2019 Ford V10 Engine Reviews . Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. That’s one hell of a vacation for the whole family if you skip a year $20,000 The Roadtreck was my traveling office! We did look at a Leisure Travel van but they are too small for all our camera, computer gear, the cats and all our toys. The 6.8-liter V10 gasoline engine is built in Canada at Ford's Windsor Engine Plant in Ontario. That is towing or not. Modular V10 (6.8l) - v10 reliability - Hi all, I spend most of my time behind the wheel of a 7.3, but am looking at a 2000 f250 with the v10 for my daughter. The below 7 mpg has me concerned. bottle of Lucas oil (using the bulk bottle and re-filling the smaller one), will try using 3 bottles of octane booster next, without the booster and the Lucas oil, I get somewhere around 6.5 to 7 mpg, am going to try synthetic oil when my first oil change comes due and maybe a K&N air filter. We really do not need the air on to be comfortable! Was wondering how the RV is holding up and if you had any issues or repairs done since you picked it up. It seems to take a lot to bring the mileage down. Gas mileage is a bit disappointing, but if you are happy with the ride quality and towing well, it sounds like the Bounder is still a hit! With our Vesta we averaged closer to 11mpg and with the Excursion it was in the 10’s, so the measly MPG in the Bounder always hurts ð, My wife and I retired a few years ago. Always the possibility that Ford built up the V10 inventory to carry them through the retooling so maybe it will be a mid-year 2021 change. So it shifts all the time, but at least where I am currently the difference is nowhere near 25%. Granted, it is only a 26″ RV, but still. Very durable, but it depends on preventative maintenance. Just got back from a 6,500 mile trip to Colorado. Call me lazy or just very appreciative that you two took the “kinks” out! MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY BOB ON MPG, BUT I’M ALWAYS ASKED THIS QUESRION AND FROM PAST USES OF OTHER V10’S ITS BETWEEN 6 AND 7 MPG. It’s in very good shape. They hold air very well, only loose about 1psi a month. Why is there sooooo much difference? Thanks. Cruise will eat fuel as it will downshift way too early. I suspect it could be better if we drove 60-65. We ran the dash A/C here and there once it was fixed and we ran the generator a bit, but not enough to impact the numbers too much. We have traveled a little over 3k miles since hitting the road (again haven’t tracked towing mileage vs non-towing but some quick math says we have towed about 800 miles). We didn’t know what we were missing until we finally made the jump to Diesels in 2010. Look forward to your other observations on the Bounder – and hope the dash AC problem is the limit of your issues! This is the worst engine trans combo ever!!!! Our question to you is, is there a noticeable difference in the performance and ride of a diesel vs the gas? I stayed as close to the speed limit as possible, maxing at 70 as often as I could. what gives are there different V10’s with more horsepower? + Better gas mileage means fewer trips to the fuel pumps. Then we had a 2005 28′ c Lexington same chassis and engine set up. 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