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</html>";s:4:"text";s:25538:"Then I spent an hour at CarMax looking at the candidate I had picked out and another (less than) hour doing the paperwork before driving home. If I don’t get any bites I take it in before the offer expires. RE: “In variably, I’m always asked how I intend to pay for it (as if the two are even remotely related).”, I good answer might be, “With money.” It’s cagey questions like this, called “short cut questions in the trade,” that just piss people off. Despite stories to the contrary Teslas can be had in TX. Google or Bing what Tesla is going through trying to set up company-owned stores. You should be haggling when purchasing expensive items from a department store, otherwise you’re leaving money on the table. A lot of the dissatisfaction with auto dealers happens during financing. Dealers make money two ways in the Service Contract business. If this person is NOT effective, they won’t be around long. If car makers are “rankled” as you say, what is keeping them from buying out their dealers and showing them how things should be done? If what Roger says is true, how could Ford have owned all of those stores back during the great Ford Collection experiment? And that’s by design. Short Answer: CarMax offers a variety of financing options through lenders like Ally Auto Finance, CarMax Auto Finance, and Santander Consumer USA. I never bought new cars until I was at a stage in life where a car payment was rounding error in my finances. How can Roger be right when the evidence CLEARLY shows he is wrong? If you pay $2K for a service contract and only collect $1K, one could say you lose. I’m going to drive it a long time and not look back. People from India and Korea come to mind. We’ve already had the rest, 50 years worth of it. CarMax, Inc, through its subsidiaries, operates as a retailer of used vehicles in the United States. When people get to be my age they start to focus more on buying that ‘last’ car for the remainder of their lifetime, and hoping to enjoy a trouble-free ownership experience for the duration. 40 years ago, I’d happily go toe to toe with any dealership, just to save an additional fifty bucks. Tesla has a showroom in Austin. One of my main gripes is that they will not let you take the car to have an independent mechanic check it out. They were depending on service, body shop and used car sales to bring home the bacon. Now that we’re selling it. Paying a couple thousand dollars to protect against the possibility of a few thousand (or even $10K) dollars in car repairs is lunacy. Nissan Armadas, which had stickered well over $50K were SELLING at auction a like new year old for $13.5K with mid teen miles. My approach to buying is to ask what the dealership needs to sell something for. For example, if you buy the right coverage, your ESA pays for a rental while your vehicle is in for warranty work. I do agree with you on the “everyone drives a used car” post though. Amazingly, it was wrapped up and we had the keys in exactly 12 minutes! There are no negative equity trade ins on gadgets or complex finance issues to work out. I agreed to have them arrange the financing in the interim as I had a few days to get my own in order before the CARMAX financing went active. I was told by the sales consultant that it is very difficult to get rid of the pet odor from the car. They were always friendly there. Though it makes me sad that so many people probably fall prey to such “standard fee” scams without ever knowing. A bank might approve their loan, but not for the amount they need to make the deal bankable. I’m not sure why, but it just sounds better coming from an attractive, middle-aged lesbian with a stylish wedge haircut and a thing for jackets with collars and snazzy pant suits! CarMax Auto Finance offers the ability to apply for preapproval. I’ve never run across one that didn’t, unless it was strictly a salvage auction. If Carmax offers the best price, take it. Subventions generally stretch down to 680 FICO but the “fast track” minimum is generally 720 – 740. We bought the 2012 Overland Summit V6 in Auburn-metallic color, not by choice but by default because it was the only one like that there. Like em’ or hate em’, Carmax is now the official used car Goliath of the auto industry. I got some texts from some lowballers who said they’d have paid a lower price in cash that morning, I just texted them back and said no. I’m happy to see you are factoring in tire replacement, brakes, and other parts costs in your decision. Below, we detail how a bad credit score affects your chances of securing financing through CarMax or at a similar … And I’m one-eighth Jewish! Some dealers take the One Price approach. At Carmax I actually saw a better deal on a different Prius model, but the previous owners had a pet and the car had the pet odor. Small town and premium price for a car tat Carmax would not have sold. They didn't want me to wait, and while busy, helped each other to accommodate me. She and my dad have are the only people I know who pay cash for a new car and immediately start making payments into a savings account to pay for their next one in 5-7 years! It was clearly written on the Buyer’s Order that she was paying CASH, so they had no right or reason to access her consumer file! From the front passenger seat, the windshield was tall enough to let me to see everything less than about 5′ off the floor of the showroom. I’m with you on the unwashed masses but I disagree with the practice. :). But I’m not going to do it for free. That extracts more money from consumers to the benefit of shareholders. The point is that some better design (ie some smart guy’s time at the keyboard) doesn’t necessarily cost more. Our tax rate is 6.75%, and that applies to both dealers and private party sales. Selling a car yourself is a much bigger PITA, so I definitely see the CarMax advantage as an alternative to the trade-in route. They don’t have the burden of a new vehicle franchise. The price is $12K. I have also encountered people that refuse to sell their car for a penny under $$$ to a person but when trading in or selling to CARMAX will take well less than that. > And most consumers don’t really want to pay Apple-level markups for cars. I never took delivery of the car since it needed some stuff fixed (how did their comprehensive inspection miss that it needed a new shock that I noticed within the first 30 seconds driving it?) You aren’t alone. The Mazda6 was OK, and the Accord was much better. In the end, I also purchased the replacement vehicle fromt them as well. Never cared for Carmax. Many of the prices at CARMAX are higher than or equal to other dealer asking prices. Interesting. For reference, the 2015 Chevy Tahoe iss 203.9 inches, very similar to the Sequoia. I then estimated what that car would trade for in five years, as I’ve settled on wanting to drive cars that are no more than 8 years old. Instead it went full circle brought and sold to Carmax the selling experience went so smooth I gladly sell to Carmax again. RE: “I’m not sure why, but it just sounds better coming from an attractive, middle-aged lesbian with a stylish wedge haircut and a thing for jackets with collars and snazzy pant suits!”. Out of the 4 other dealers we visited, the CarMax offer was $1,500 LESS than the LOWEST offer from the … A Service Tech at one of the Carmax locations was actually interested in buying it and offer KBB Private Party Value minus $1000. That was fair. The Most Difficult Toyota to Find: 2021 4Runner TRD Pro in Lunar Rock, Buy a 2021 Toyota Highlander Hybrid vs. Honda Pilot and Save $6,000 In Fuel Costs, Buy a 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime vs. Forester or Rogue and Save $5,000 in Fuel Costs, Real MPG of 2021 Toyota Venza: Owners Reveal All, The One Thing Next-Gen 2022 Toyota Tundra Must Not Change, 3 Busted Toyota Prius Myths Haters Wish Were True, 2022 Next-Gen Toyota Tundra Fans Torn Over Engine Options, A New Subaru Forester Turbocharged Model Could Make Its U.S. Service centers would obviously need to exist, but they’d have uniform pricing, and a buyer could include servicing and repair costs into his calculations. She got XM radio, Xenon headlights, fog lights and a few other extras in the deal). If you’ve ever been in a developing country there’s a major contrast between the bazaar next to the new westernized stores. Of course, if everyone listened to me there would be no used cars. Hyundai Commonwealth. The 2021 Toyota Venza Feature You Want but May Have Trouble Getting. Always enjoy Steve’s articles and bank away vital info that I may use. Appraises it’s value. But buying it the first place was such a hassle that I would never buy from Carmax again. Then I took her check book away and put it in my pocket! I can see no other reason than to keep out riff-raff. ME: Sorry. Why? In 2008, the first year of the current model, they sold 30,693. 2. Apple has carved out its own niche by creating markets where there was previously no market. Besides, every time an automaker decides to sell direct it becomes an expensive failure. No system is perfect. I use Castrol 5-30W conventional motor oil (6qt) and change oil between 3-5K miles depending on mileage and color. I really don’t know why that model still exists in this day. Have you ever noticed how much money Carmax spends on radio advertising? He was clearly in a difficult position because of the User Car Manager and he even admitted that he felt powerless in the situation. I think CarMax exists (and prospers) because of the inefficiencies and odiousness of many of the dealings people have with dealers. Voila! Fully a third of car buyers are sub prime to BHPH buyers. If there is anything Dealers are consistently guilty of it is charging consumers “flat rate” when “flat rate” can be beaten, but trying to charge “open time” when it can’t. About the $200 bump you mentioned. I really don’t understand why anyone would go into a car dealer without having financing in-hand from their own bank or CU first. . That Aveo I mentioned earlier? I love Steve Lang’s work at TTAC. My parents were actually in the middle of a mortgage re-fi and I made the dealership have the inquiry removed a few weeks later because the bank had a major issue with it! It’s a free market, and because Carmax eliminates uncertainty by disclosing major defects to this dealer audience, they get a premium return for much of what they sell. Take the offer or leave it. In fact, many of the OEMs own corporations that also hold state dealer licenses. The issue is handled between the dealership and the ESA company. And then, it is probably only limited to scores over a threshold. Great little car with terrible paint ( no clear coat?). I kind of felt like I was using them because at their prices, I wasn’t going to buy from them. More times than not, it has some type of problem that is either expensive or elusive. Plus you get all the new technology, new safety stuff, and a better warranty. Maybe we can do better”, Me: “I’m not going to tell you that. When we trade this GC, my wife and I have decided on buying a 2015 Sequoia 5.7 to replace it, if they still make them. Older cars require fairly frequent repairs and continued maintenance, until something major breaks and the car’s done. Being somewhat realistic, I figured that the offer would be at the low end of the spectrum, maybe even a $1k or … The dealer who I bought my new car from offered $1000 against a discounted new car, so I came out quite a bit ahead. OEMs resent dealer groups who command a lot of market. My general rule of thumb is that if I can borrow at less than the rate of inflation, I do. Cars. No one here said different. You say, OK. What happens next? The franchise agreements in place don’t preclude an OEM from buying out a dealers. CarMax offered me $6500 (which I thought was generous and per Blue Book). So are DTI standards as well as job time requirements, mortgage or renter requirements, etc. One can buy a gadget with some open line on a credit card. It took me almost a month to sell mine because people are stupid. RE: “And that is why the BRZ is outselling the FRS. There are a few states where that isn’t the case, with CA and MI being two. New car, used car? They will auction it. And that is why the BRZ is outselling the FRS. The car had 7500 miles on it. In order for someone to “win”, a lot of someones have to “lose”. Actually, an extended service agreement is one of the best values available DEPENDING on the coverage you get and the price you pay. So sometimes CarMax can sell someone on trading in instead of just selling their ride. That’s been my experience as well, and I have been going there for 10 yrs. As a business justification, maybe, if you’re the only competent one in the room. 2005 Mazda RX-8: Sold in 2010 for exactly the same price I had bought it for on eBay (but from a local seller) 8 months and 7000 miles earlier. “It’s a measure of how much money the banks expect to make on you.”, I think a better way of expressing it is that it’s a measure of how much money they expect to *lose* on you. I told them that I knew that the ILX wasn’t exactly flying off dealer lots in record numbers and if they wanted to sell the car, they’d take a $100 deposit. I had to wax it 5X year otherwise the red would become orange. Advertisement I have yet to encounter a … Which is why the “I always pay cash for everything” crowd amuses me so much. Over time, these things have a way of taking care of themselves. Before we really said much, he ran the VIN and the CARFAX came back showing the accident. After all, there has to be enough profit in the policy to give everyone in the selling chain their piece of the pie, have enough money left over to pay out for repairs, and still make a nice profit. Thanks for the article. Technically, I could pay off my house tomorrow. My best friend’s neighbor traded in an older Acura MDX on a new Sequoia a few years ago. But, I spent a little extra money and had a very quick and pleasant experience buying a new car and getting a somewhat fair price on my “trade-in.” $300 for shipping the car locally, ~$1000 less if I had negotiated the new car price at a dealer, and ~$1000 more if I had sold my car on my own. But like you said competition can be good. If it is true that franchise law prohibits direct sales by auto OEMs, why has Tesla been able to “sell direct” in most states? RE: “Ford spawned the franchise system because he wanted to run his factories at full tilt, and pass the inventory management risk onto other people. Margins are part of it. Another is that they don’t see any financial benefit to attempt it. Its simple, right? Not all dealers play games, but sorting through them is quite a pain. This extends to the ownership process where any product issues (a wide assortment most of which might as well be magic to owners) can be quickly resolved at the same retail store. 3. There are others. Everyone has a certain point with their daily driver when they would rather see money back in their pocket, instead of seeing more money fall out of their pocket. The point isn’t so much the necessity of specialization but the aggregate results; Apple for example would beg to differ on doing some retail though they’re well on the other side of wall st margins. A dealer located 200 miles away (we’re in Atlanta) beat the other TrueCar dealers by almost $1800 on the price for a 2014 ILX ‘Base’. And yes, I did visit all these dealership in my city and their websites. First, I checked for car deals in brand dealerships. The dealer that independently goes to “no haggle” pricing is always going to be undercut by the nearby dealer who will haggle to a lower price. I just paid it off this week, 18 months into a 48 month term. That’s a personal choice. I’ll take ESA odds or Vegas any day, and I live in LV. I recommend CARMAX to people of a certain mindset. Sorry, I got carried away. If you want to sell vehicles at retail, you DO need a dealer license. CARMAX IS THE WORST!!!! As my father was a car dealer, I knew all that stuff from the beginning (holdback, trade in rates, etc.) Anyway, I was impressed by what I considered a very fair offer from Carmax. I felt certain that the car was a total loss and, when the adjuster from State Harm made contact, I told her that I knew my car was worth at close to $11k and I’d take a check for $10,500 and they could close the claim. What do you do? But the business on the whole does just fine courting new buyers. 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