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</html>";s:4:"text";s:22773:"I have used fuel stabilizer through long periods of sitting but not much else. Checked compression. anyone know a good tutorial for taking apart the. How a motorcycle engine becomes seized: The first and most common reason a motorcycle engine seizes is because of the lack of lubrication. If i let it sit for a few more days it will require more starting fluid to get it started. ... Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. If your motorcycle turns over but wont start it, can mean there’s a good chance your problem is related to your bike’s ignition or fuel. 2000 Ninja ZX6R won't start! Have a 2013 ultra classic 103 cu in motor. Seems to be getting fuel since you can run it … Scooter wont start by itself. The pile of shit will crank and crank and crank, but will not start without the chemical kick. Has spark has compression put starting fluid in plug hole it jumps but won't start. anyone know a good tutorial for taking apart the mikuni carburetor. A broken or loose vacuum line can result in too much air being drawn into the combustion chamber, which will alter the air/fuel mixture and not allow the engine to ignite the mixture properly. Once it's warmed up, it'll start without it, but it won't when it's cold. I put it in for the winter, and now I am taking it out because the weather is getting nice. For... 3. So, I trickle charged the battery, and I am going to take it to the shop to get an oil change. You are using the choke (closed) when trying to start, right ? Tester The bike will only start with starter fluid or carb cleaner sprayed into the intake. You would be surprised by the longevity of these engines, if properly maintained. For starting you should leave the throttle at idle for the enrichener to work properly. Ignition Spark At this point I would definitely check the condition of cam chain, unless you have a manual cam chain tensioner then there is probably nothing to worry about. My son's low mileage '10 G650GS has been in the garage since October . I have a 1983 KZ750 LTD (shaft drive). I can get it started this spring but only when I use starter fluid. Especially seeing how much it sat around? If you are twisting the throttle as you start, the enrichener will not add the extra fuel needed to start a cold engine. Rules, New Member Introductions, and Forum Information. Remove one and check if it’s wet; if it is, clean it off, replace it, and see if the bike will start. If I get it started with starter fluid then wait for it to warm up, shut her down then start her back up again she'll start right up. There is no mark for the dot to line up with, but I assume that 12:00 is correct. Over time gas starts to break down and will no longer combust which can lead to situations where the motorcycle cranks but wont start. It would be a good idea to have a mechanic look it over if you have the money. Repeat this a half dozen times and then try starting the engine. With regards to the fuel and air mixture, you also need to check for some obvious issues. and checked mix screws. BTW: If you ever do try to use starter fluid on a motor, WD-40 is actually very slightly safer to use instead of ether base quick-start. Once it gets going it runs fine and will continue to run fine if I ride it every day. The carb. As motorcycle.com comments, a typical sign of a dead battery is very dim running lights that get progressively dimmer or even go out completely when you try starting. If the engine does not start, the starter port and the idle mixture ports inside the carbs are plugged up and the carbs need a thorough cleaning with carburetor cleaner. ... if you can spin it on the starter without the ignition being on, do that to get some oil to the bearings ... modern unleaded goes off after a couple of months so won't be any good if it has been standing for longer than that. I'm fixing an edger for someone else. Helpful 0. I have a '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R. If the engine starts right up, the problem is with the anti drain-back valve on the fuel pump assembly. I wanted to do the 3x3 mod so i would like to replace it all in one shot. I bought my DRZ used at 5,000 miles and since have put about 3k on it. Re: Bike turns over but won't catch / start "Starting fluid" is typically made from ether and is very hard on the internal parts of an engine. If you’ve ruled out … Thanks for your time. Make sure the choke system is cleaned well. I have a 2000 R1. Copyright© ThumperTalk, Inc. -  All rights reserved. And bypassing the carbs with starting fluid has the engine sucking fuel past whatever's blocking it till it starves out. Took carb apart, looks really clean, no gum. Using care with the starting fluid will not hurt the bike, but over use of it could. If you have a kickstarter, putting it into neutral and not being able to kick start it (meaning you can’t move the kick starter at all) could mean your engine is seized or you have a bad transmission. There are Mikuni carbs on it right now. Replace/clean the fuel filter. The starting fluid is a artifical way to give the gas back its violatility and get the bike running. It won't even try to start with some starting fluid; it just turns over until it backfires. What To Do When Your Motorcycle Won't Start. If I spray a burst of starter fluid into the carb through the air intake (airbox is off), it will start, rev up really high, and then die off once all the fluid has burned off. I have the service manual but it seems tough. Onboard sensors can also contribute to spark plug problems, but fortunately, spark plugs are typically easy to access, making this a simple step toward finding out what’s wrong with your motorcycle. If you add spray starter fluid it will run but not idle. Any ideas of where to look would be appreciated. If your motorcycle starts and stays running, then it’s time to celebrate and go riding. Conversely, too little air can be the culprit as well. I would clean the carb and put all new gas in it. the bump start If you’ve kicked until you’re blue in the face, it’s time to try the bump-start method. I am a newbie when it comes to working on these bikes so please help me understand what may be going on and what needs to be done. I do have one more question. Posted on Jun 21, 2009. I made one out of a wrench you would find in a motorcycle tool kit. It will not start. Been trying to get a god damned 2014 Polaris 850XP with 996 miles on it to start without a shot of starter fluid. I am looking to put some money into some mods and stuff but before I drop a bunch of money on parts would it be a good idea to take it to a mechanic that knows what they are looking at? Well now bike won’t start just pops at the starter any clue on how to fix this problem it’s my only transportation thank you in advance. Recently bought a used 2016 125 cc Apollo pit bike for my son. Is it safe to assume the carb needs a good cleaning from so much sitting around? If the battery is no longer able … Your email address will not be published. Using care with the starting fluid will not hurt the bike, but over use of it could. If my DRZ sits for a few days I have to use starting fluid to get it started. Start Motorcycle Garaged for Over a Year. It has had all the very basic maintenance done to it such as oil changes but never any engine maintenance. I put a set of slip ins on bike today and had to knock them on with 2×4 and a hammer didn’t slip on to easy. Gas as it sits loses its violatility and turns to a varnish type compound.  By plugged you mean clogged? you … A fresh tank of gas may be all that you need to get your ride running again. Some likely scenarios for no starts (in no apparent order): Pilot jets are clogged; your mixture screws are in all the way; your idle screw is backed out all the way; vacuum leaks around the carb boots; low compression float height stuck float needles I have already changed the spark plug and it has not helped. if you want i can post it on here on Wednesday night as it is at the shop. 1. If it still won’t start, then you will need to check for things that are outside of the scope of this post. Thanks btw, apologies if I posted in the wrong sub-forum. Starting fluid should rarely be needed to start a gasoline engine. Thanks for the replies everyone. Won't crank without starter fluid... ScootDawg's Scooter Forum a.k.a.  More Tips And Tech. https://thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378193. I have read that this fluid is harmful to engines and don't want to continue avoiding a real problem. Then, it sounds like you need some starting fluid or propane introduced into the air box to see if that spark you have will actually make it fire a few strokes. 867 Answers. The fact that it runs good up to WOT but won't idle or start make me suspect leakage in the intake manifold. Of all the reasons why your motorcycle won’t start, a dead battery is the most obvious. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. That makes it sounds like it's not getting enough fuel to start the bike. If so, does anyone know a good guide or video to use that will show you how to disassemble and clean it? 1 - … Hello everyone. Fuel goes threw to carb dk what to do next yrs mess w choke also no diff.help someone plz By plugged you mean clogged? However, if I let her sit in my shed over night and try to start her back up she won't turn over unless I use starter fluid. Check your vacuum lines for cracks and holes. I have a Raptor 660 that won't start without starter fluid. It revs really high for a second or two and then dies. Here are ten of the most common reasons why your motorcycle won’t start. You can have it run well once it is started and still have stale gas in the tank. so far I've taken apart the carb. In most bikes, electrical problems are relatively difficult to troubleshoot – especially if you... 2. Poll: Preferred brands of off-road tires. Bump starting it won't even do the trick. Log in, helpful guide on how to bump start your motorcycle, our post on the best motorcycle spark plugs. Re: won't start without starter fluid. level 2 Due to some military deployments my drz has spent majority of its time stored away. A methodical approach on how to start a motorcycle when you push the button and your motorcycle doesn't start. Updated: July 20, 2019. You know the old saying: There are motorcyclists who have gone down, motorcyclists who are going down, and motorcyclists who are going to go down again – down to their garage only to find that their bike won’t start. You can usually remove your air filter and spray WD40 into this location (the air filter location) and allow the vacuum caused by a cranking engine to draw it in. I dont understand, it runs decent once running but it refuses to start or even try without starting fluid. Re your original problem - as others stated above, give your carb a solid cleanup and see if that helps. Fuel Air Mixture By staff. You can also try cleaning the carbs and using starter fluid to help get it going. Your pilot jet is pluged. Tried new battery because of the voltage was sagging a bit while it cranked, and cranked and cranked. The starting fluid is a artifical way to give the gas back its violatility and get the bike running. Ask Question Asked 9 years, 4 months ago. It will not start without some sort of fluid sprayed into the intake. Approaching 9,000 miles is my DRZ past the point that I should start putting money into it. It will run until the fluid is gone and then stalls. Also keep in mind the object of doing that is to slightly enrich the fuel air mix, you don't want to try and run a modern … The Dawg Pound. Using fresh gas, new plugs, choke in the off position, try starting the engine. Any thoughts why out-of-the-blue it wouldn't start? The next time the engine won’t start, turn the ignition switch to run so the dash lights come on for two seconds, and then turn the ignition switch off. What You Will Need To Check 1. JDL_EWR,  January 13, 2011 in DRZ400/E/S/SM. I also have a few more questions and hope someone might have some insight. This morning it cranked, but wouldn't fire. If you can get the bike to run it will burn the old gas, but because the violatility is gone it will be hard to start. New Member Introductions. Never slowed up. It can be especially important to check on the fuel if the bike wont start after sitting. It's best to replace it. By  If the battery is low, you’ll hit the starter and the bike might light up and turn over but it won’t start. Often the low speed jets in the carb are very small and hard to properly clean even if you know where they are. If you can get the bike to run it will burn the old gas, but because the violatility is gone it will be hard to start. I'm starting it right, it just won't start. VS700 won't start. It does have gas. Help! It starts right up and runs good with a little squirt of starter fluid into each of the 4 carbs, but it will not start without the starter fluid. Get a buddy (or two) to push the bike to terminal velocity. Turn on the ignition switch, pull the clutch lever in and thumb the the starter button without turning the twist grip. One of the most common reasons a motorcycle won’t start, or is sluggish trying to start, is from a dead battery. I've been starting it every 2-3 weeks without issue and letting it run for 5-10 minutes. Even with today’s improved batteries, if it … Reply Copyright© ThumperTalk, Inc. -  All rights reserved.ThumperTalk® is a registered trademark. I wanted to do the 3x3 mod so i would like to replace it all in one shot. is in good condetion and the diaphram looks clean and very pliable. Seems like the carb wants to be primed, its fuel thirsty, so after sitting around for a while, turn the fuel valve on and full twist the throttle a bunch of times before you try to start it. Compression I know from experience that the bikes are rediculously hard to start without the air filters in place. The fuel tank has a RES ON PRI pitcock. Dead Battery. 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