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";s:4:"text";s:36058:"It sounds like overkill but it is way easier than draining, drying, powdering, wrapping and storing heavy pool then putting it up again. Fiberglass pools need to be neutrally balanced within the ground, just like concrete pools, to oppose the force of ground water that pushes up on the pool in the ground. To have your product or service considered for listing here as an endorsed brand email SwimmingPoolSteve@gmail.com. The problem with draining a concrete pool for the winter is that IF the wrong set of circumstances arises it can result in your entire pool being destroyed. Have been thru three seasons with it without any complaints except for a couple of pinhole leaks in the side of the pool. No matter what kind of interior surface you have in your concrete pool, it is designed to be used underwater. Easily fixed with a patch kit. Many people add a backyard pond to their home to house goldfish. These are brands, products and services hand selected by Steve for endorsement. Please note that these endorsements can include monetary compensation, affiliate links and referral fees to Swimming Pool Steve, however there is zero additional cost to you should you use one of these products or services. Let us get this one out of the way first. On the plus side though, by designing your pool to be open all winter you can avoid the delay caused by having to open the pool in the spring. Sie können Ihre Einstellungen jederzeit ändern. A pool like this left empty for the winter would very likely suffer structural stresses and failures to the wall components. Have been thru three seasons with it without any complaints except for a couple of pinhole leaks in the side of the pool. Yes, there is concern for the water line freezing and causing damage...but this is the nature of the beast in cold climate areas. Here’s an option that runs solely on electricity; no need to have a gas … In these areas the liner is being pulled away but can not move. Which way is cheaper? The typical cost to close and open a pool is one month of service cost. Should you drain a concrete pool for the winter? Adjust the Total Alkalinity level. I am considering leaving it up during the winter. With certain pools. I have heard that I can do that long as I refill it with clean water and dump chemicals in it. Still, given the wrong set of circumstances such as a blocked hydrostatic relief valve in the main drain, or unusually heavy rains or flash flood conditions, a concrete pool can be exposed to a much greater lifting force than it can oppose. Asking "Should I drain my pool for the winter?" It is worthwhile to consider that even if you have no ground water or "popping pool" concerns in your area, the interior surface of a concrete pool should still be kept wet to protect it against the elements. Never, never, NEVER, drain your swimming pool! Once there are a few inches of water covering the shallow end floor it is typically safe to remove the liner vacuums and allow the weight of the water to set the liner the rest of the way as the pool fills. Cover your pool to retain heat. Yes and no. - Swimming Pool Steve As soon as there is no water weight on the shallow end floor of the pool, the weight of the water in the deep end hopper will start to pull your liner away from the shallow end walls towards the deep end of the pool. - Swimming Pool Steve Lots of water accumulation on an above-ground pool cover can also put stress on the pool frame itself, which can be both dangerous and expensive. Much. Even if you extend the season with a pool heater, you need to make sure you keep the proper chemical balance.If you don’t, it will cost you more in products and time in the spring, and could lead to staining or damage to your equipment or finish. If it gets too cold (per say 0 degrees Celsius) the steps could crack. I am considering leaving it up during the winter. Too many pool owners incorrectly assume that they need a new liner anyway, so just drain the pool for the winter and deal with it in the spring. Dazu gehört der Widerspruch gegen die Verarbeitung Ihrer Daten durch Partner für deren berechtigte Interessen. Do you see how many qualifying statements you need to add about when it is OK to drain a pool? Between the chemicals, cold weather, protection from debris and dark conditions, algae will be unable to grow. When the liner is first installed it is manipulated manually into position by the installers while under suction from liner installation vacuums. For above-ground pool, it is best to lower the water up to 18'' below the skimmer. Don’t Use A Pool Cover If your Pool Is Leaking Additionally, a vinyl pool kit should have outward pressure on the walls from the weight of the water. My husband takes ours down at the end of every august. ?, will it be ok to leave up ?? It is doing great. But if you were to replace the air inside the rubber ducky with water it would be totally different. Once the pool closing is done, let the water level rise in the pool during the winter until spring. If your pool is full of debris in September, then it will not be pleasant … Try to keep your pool cover clear of debris over the winter so you can keep an eye on the Grinch known as Groundwater. Pool covers have various qualities and prices. Concrete pools however are up to a foot thick, or more, and this is much more overall strength than the much thinner, albeit stronger, fiberglass pools. We are in CT where we do see our share of snow storms and freezing weather. Without water, an in-ground gunite pool can pop out of the ground, or the walls on a vinyl lined pool can shift or cave in all together. In order to keep this resource about pools and spas available for free to all readers I earn commissions for purchases made through links on this page. Thanks for the help Yahoo ist Teil von Verizon Media. It sounds like overkill but it is way easier than draining, drying, powdering, wrapping and storing heavy pool then putting it up again. Water is an important structural element to any pool. While in-ground pools are fairly safe from wind, they do present their own challenges. ? My concern is what will happen when the water freezes and then starts to thaw. Next, consider the Winter conditions. Endorsed Brands From Swimming Pool Steve Sometimes. Thankfully, you can keep your pool in tip-top shape as long as you take the proper precautions to physically protect your pool as well as “winterize” it for cold weather. This is why it is better to be safe than sorry and simply apply the blanket statement - NEVER drain your pool. When it comes to the technical process of waterproofing concrete pools Basecrete is the most effective product that I know of. Dies geschieht in Ihren Datenschutzeinstellungen. Some one could steal them but that is highly unlikely but what you really have to worry about is how cold it will get in your winter. Don’t run the risk of ruptured pipes or allowing the cold to cause more expensive damage. We have a 54in by 20ft bestway pool. Can you leave above ground pool up that is drained and cleaned completely for the winter time or does it need water in it. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Before we can talk about why you should not drain an above ground pool for the winter you should first familiarize yourself with some of the different types of aboveground pools. All concrete pools require an interior surface of some kind, whether this be pool plaster, or a proprietary masonry or pebble interior surface, or epoxy, or paint or even tile. But the effort is not worth that i would leave them be they should be fine. I am under the impression that only a permanent above ground can stay up. Depending on the quality, grade, and type of cover you purchase, it can easily outweigh the cost of chemicals. No, probably not. Usually, aboveground pools do not have a shallow end and a deep end - most are flat bottom. Damit Verizon Media und unsere Partner Ihre personenbezogenen Daten verarbeiten können, wählen Sie bitte 'Ich stimme zu.' In most cases, it can be an even wash. Your water should only be drained so it sits just below the skimmer and jets. Removing the Accessories and Cleaning www.InTheSwim.com Once a vinyl liner has been exposed to UV from the sun, as well as chemicals such as chlorine, it will shrink slightly and lose elasticity. - Swimming Pool Steve This is why you can not re-purpose an old pool liner. 8 Part Video Series On Pool Winterizing A fiberglass pool can pop out of the ground just the same as a concrete pool, but they also experience problems with twisting, bowing and cracking quite often - much more so than a concrete pool would. If you want to continue learning about pools and spas from an industry expert follow swimming pool Steve on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube It is worth noting that fiberglass is actually stronger than concrete, or even steel, based on equal thickness. Without a deep end to pull the liner away from the shallow end, most likely you could drain an above ground pool and the liner would not shift much. By adding the right chemicals prior to winter, you can keep the water clean and safe all season long, even when you’re not using it. Algae takes up oxygen that is needed for the goldfish to survive, it is important to clean out algae and keep it under control. In fact, some concrete pool owners do this every year, and it always works out just fine. When you drain an above ground pool the liner will shrink, shift, and ultimately never go back to as good as it once was - even if you refill with water right away after draining. Pool installations can be very expensive especially when you start to add optional extras. I have heard that I can do that long as I refill it with clean water and dump chemicals in it. Draining your pool will require a lot of new water later. Do you mean an intex type pool? We have had an Intex metal frame above ground pool for about 7 years (we're on our second one). If you drain yours, it is entirely possible that spring will come and you can fill it up and everything will be fine. I have a 15 foot intex frame pool , I have spken to the place i got the pool from and they say its safe to leave up over winter , yet some people tell me i need to take it down and empty it for winter, has anyone else got these frame pools do you take yours down for winter ? Also, too much water weight on top of a winter pool cover can severely damage an above ground and would not typically be covered under warranty. We have an Intex 18 x 4 EasySet pool. During winter, the cold temperature will harm the pool. Since the Winter pool cover protects the pool during the Winter, you may want to consider the typical weather conditions while selecting a Winter Cover. You must keep at minimum a few inches of water (usually six to 12 inches is safe) covering the floor of the shallow end of the pool at all times. Very old liners shatter like glass when you let them dry out. Better to have only the top of the waterline freeze as opposed to exposing the entire interior surface of the pool to freeze and thaw conditions for an entire winter season. Depending on the area, this may be more difficult than others. In addition, it is preferable to leave the a good water level in the pool with rain and snow. Pool or semi-inground with vinyl I know this may not always be true, but for simple math lets just say that the swimming pool and spa get closed October 31st. Easily fixed with a patch kit. I winterize it as directed for above ground pool and water was very clean when I opened it this past summer. Obviously a concrete pool that has popped out of the ground is a worst case scenario. What you can get away with doing, and what is a good idea, are two totally different things. Income generated from these links helps to keep this pool and spa resource available for everyone. If it gets too cold (per say 0 degrees Celsius) the steps could crack. It’ll keep it … If you own a fiberglass pool you should absolutely never drain it on your own, and leaving it empty for the winter would almost certainly break it. Others may choose to build an inground pool and decide the existing above ground pool in their backyard is perfect for their goldfish. Maybe. aus oder wählen Sie 'Einstellungen verwalten', um weitere Informationen zu erhalten und eine Auswahl zu treffen. Now, to get technical, there are MANY different kinds of swimming pools, located in MANY different kinds of climates. For instance, the liner can begin to shrink when you expose your pool to air for a long time, which can lead to tearing when you refill your pool. Even those with floor contours will usually only have a "dished hopper" (a pool sloped to the deepest point in the middle) or a coved section where the wall meets the floor. Or more accurately, I can. What is also significant are the environmental factors such as the water table surrounding the pool, the soil conditions, the amount of rain and/or snow, the extremes of temperature that the pool will potentially be exposed to...the list goes on and on. Still that does not mean that you are supposed to drain a concrete pool for the winter. If you have an above ground pool the pumps simply unplug from their connections and the entire pump and filter system can be brought inside for the winter. Before we can talk about why you should not drain an above ground pool for the winter you should first familiarize yourself with some of the different types of aboveground pools. An aboveground pool with a vinyl liner should not be drained, but for a different reason than inground vinyl liner pools. It's possible to leave your above-ground pool up all winter with the water in it, since draining it completely may cause it to collapse. If, however, you live in an area where freezing occurs, you'll have to drain your Intex pool and take it down for the winter. This would include pulling the hydrostatic relief valves and continually pumping the water that fills into the pool from beneath. Without water, an in-ground gunite pool can pop out of the ground, or the walls on a vinyl lined pool can shift or cave in all together. The most common method to winterize an above ground pool is to add the appropriate winterizing chemicals, lower the water level to just below the skimmer and return, cover the pool and remove all equipment plugs. Many of these interior surfaces will fail if you allow them to completely dry out. www.BasecreteUSA.com Inground vinyl liner pools almost all have a shallow end and a deep end. Alicia Harris Leaving an inground pool open during winter is fairly common in the sunbelt, where the climate rarely dips below 40-50 degrees Fahrenheit. For example, it is going to invite particles of dirt or remnants of leaves, twigs, and anything that will be swept by the intense winter … Building a pool is a once in a lifetime event for most people and it is important to get the pool you want. Choosing to close your pool during the winter can help with keeping debris out, but remember you still need to follow the pool closing steps we mention above and shock your pool. Again, there are many different ways to build a concrete pool, and as such each will have unique considerations. This way, the pool will retain its shape and prevent water spillage on the ground. Of course the reality is that you can drain a swimming pool. Yes and no. When you fill a concrete pool with water, the water in the pool opposes the forces from the water outside of the pool. Although it may seem scary to leave water in a pool during freezing temperatures, you can actually damage your pool more by removing too much water. If it’s an in-ground pool system, the pumps are hard wired with a flexible conduit that contains two power leads and a ground wire. I will keep this simple and describe the situation as it pertains to above-ground pools, and in-ground pools, while offer some advice and information. It would be common to expect to see wrinkles in the liner if you did drain and refill your above ground pool. Regardless of where you live, and the climate that your pool is exposed to, it would probably be a very bad idea to drain your fiberglass pool for any period of time...let alone an entire winter! Fiberglass pools are also not as strong as concrete pools against bowing, shifting, twisting or pretty much any other force application. When you keep your pool clean, you can even open it up in winter for some decoration. It is doing great. FamilyPoolFun will guide you through pool selection, installation and maintenance. Now that you know a little more about how, and why, you should not drain your pool, you should take a look at these articles that build on this information: Some of these styles rely on the weight of the water pushing out on the walls to help structurally support the pool kit. The interior surface of a concrete pool is the single most expensive maintenance cost for owning a concrete pool and so logic would dictate that you want to get the longest possible service life from yours. When it comes to ordering pool and spa supplies online in Canada www.PoolSuppliesCanada.ca is by far the best option. Opening Your Pool After Being Closed For The Winter InTheSwim.com would be my recommendation to pool owners looking to shop online for pool and spa supplies. If you have a vinyl-lined above-ground pool, leaving it full for the winter will protect the vinyl liner from shrinkage and other damage. These vacuums hold the liner precisely where it needs to be until such time as the water level in the pool rises enough to hold the liner where it should be. Also, while there is standard maintenance throughout the winter, you will avoid the extensive spring cleaning since algea and water chemistry won’t have to be rebalanced after the long winter. The answer to this question about whether you should drain your pool or not is a resounding "No!" These entry level swimming pools are the only type of pool which you can drain and pack away for the winter. - Swimming Pool Steve If these things happen to your pool you essentially need an entirely new pool installation and it is going to be costly for sure. Some people have told me that nothing will happen to the siding of the pool. Electric Resistance Heaters. It is also worth noting that there are many different styles of aboveground pool kit. If you live in an area with freeze and thaw conditions then leaving your pool empty for the winter will almost certainly cause damage to the interior surface. The guy at the pool and spa shop where we get our chemicals told us you can winterize it and leave it up for the winter - however, we usually find that when the fall hit, even with the cover on the rain and leaves would make the pool so gunky, we needed to take it down and thoroughly clean it anyway. Again, you can ask your pool professional about specifics, but decorating your pool during the winter can be a lot of fun and look amazing. Some people use air pillows to create an area in middle of pool to minimize ice damage to liner walls and skimmer. Under specific conditions. It becomes neutrally buoyant in the ground. Winter season lasts for approximately three months before the spring season, where you can finally reopen the pool. Leaving a vinyl pool empty for an extended period of time, especially in cold climate areas, significantly reduces the strength of the pool to resist structural failures like shifting or bowing walls, or collapsing of the slopes in the pool. Amazon Disclosure Statement - As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Due to this doesn’t drain your above ground pool or if you do, refill it as quickly as you can. I have an intex above ground pool. and if you keep cover drained and clear any snow off you will be fine. Winter rain and snow, and everything floating in the air above is absorbed into your pool during winter, and this can consume your winter pool chemicals, and pummel your pH, Alkalinity and Calcium Hardness levels. Whenever you’re not using your pool in the winter, cover it. Unfortunately there are enough people who drain theirs "successfully" as to spread misinformation to other concrete pool owners as to what is OK, and not OK to do to your pool. Never includes winter. One of the benefits of an automatic pool safety cover over a standard winter cover is the ease of being able to take a peek periodically at your water level. Above ground pools are a lot of fun in the summer, but they can become a bit of a pain in the winter. Draining Your Pool the Right Way. If you attempt to remove your cover without removing the water build up, the dirty winter water and debris will flow into your mostly clean pool water. The following links and products are to affiliates of the Swimming Pool Steve website. The resulting stress either stretches, distorts, weakens or tears the vinyl in these areas if there is not enough elasticity in the liner to handle the pull. The geography of the pool, combined with the unique construction style used for your specific pool, will determine how to maintain it, including how to prepare for a winter season. Draining a concrete pool for the winter is a bad idea. I winterize it as directed for above ground pool and water was very clean when I opened it this past summer. Since these pools are above ground level, keeping them full ensures that the wind will not damage the walls, liner, or frame. I strongly endorse the use of Basecrete products to all concrete pool owners. My concern is what will happen when the water freezes and then starts to thaw. Backed by a 15 year above ground pool warranty, a 6 month price match guarantee and a 75 Day no-hassle return policy! Of course with rainfall water tends to collect on top of the cover causing it to … For more information see the full disclaimer page. Where you live impacts the winter fate of your Intex above-ground pool. Swimming pool financing can help you get the pool you want and make sure you have the money you need to do it right the first time. Above ground pools with no water are especially susceptible to damage. Without the water covering the floor it is very likely that you would require additional floor repairs, all the way up to a complete new smooth bottom which might cost as much as $3000 or more depending on where you are located. Für nähere Informationen zur Nutzung Ihrer Daten lesen Sie bitte unsere Datenschutzerklärung und Cookie-Richtlinie. There are many different pool construction styles as well, and each of them has unique care and maintenance instructions, and performing the wrong maintenance on your pool can be costly to say the least. How did you ever get the idea that you could drain a fiberglass pool for the winter? Additionally, you have to think about what will happen to all that stagnant water if you do leave it on the cover for a while—especially in winter. If you live in an area with mild winters, you can winterize the pool and cover it for the season. Pool or semi-inground with vinyl For the pool or semi-inground, it is advisable to lower the water level up to 4'' in the backflow. Be prepared. www.LightStream.com The swimming pool industry is dynamic in nature, and the technical information about how to care for a concrete pool in Vancouver Canada will not likely apply very well to a vinyl liner pool located in New Jersey USA, nor one located in Florida. However, several steps and precautions are necessary to keep your pool safe through the winter. You are better off to winterize the pool, but leave water in the pool to protect it. Total Alkalinity should … You do not want to leave your pool empty for the winter even if you need a new liner as this will result in, at minimum, extra work that needs to be done to the floor when it comes time to hang a new liner in the pool. If you are asking whether you should drain your pool for the winter or not then chances are there are other questions that you still have about how to get your pool ready for cold weather (or extended periods of inactivity). So you want to save some money? No matter what your Intex pool type, the company has guidelines for which you should or shouldn't keep up all winter. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Copyright © 2021 - All Rights Reserved - www.SwimmingPoolSteve.com, things you should NEVER say to your pool guy, Opening Your Pool After Being Closed For The Winter. Along with advising if you can leave the pool up, Intex explains what you need to do to protect your pool through the winter months. If you add to these environmental conditions by draining your fiberglass pool, you can pretty much count on experiencing a total failure of the pool. www.PoolSuppliesCanada.ca Above Ground Pool Winter Damage, what can be done to prevent damage. Even if you are thinking that you need a new liner anyway, what you might not realize is that the weight of the water on the floor helps to protect it. seems like an innocent enough question, however as a pool and spa expert a question like this is not a terribly good sign. This will cause stretching to the liner in any place where it is held firmly in place by a flange and gasket - such as a return fitting, or a flange around a set of in-wall steps. But it’s possible to do this in cooler climates, as well – with or without the help of a pool heater. Some fail as they delaminate from the substrate concrete shell due to a different rate of expansion and contraction under temperature variations like direct sunlight. Once used, if you let the liner dry out it will become stiff and brittle. Aboveground pools that have a vinyl liner are what I would consider to be the entry level pool into the "professional quality" category, so this is where we will start. Just like a rubber ducky in the bathtub, when you push it under water and let go the ducky shoots right up out of the water and floats on top. Ours is pretty large (18x48) if that helps any. Some one could steal them but that is highly unlikely but what you really have to worry about is how cold it will get in your winter. A concrete pool is, or at least is supposed to be, hydrostatically balanced in the ground. Can you drain a concrete pool for the winter? Usually when you drain a fiberglass pool you would be actively controlling the ground water surrounding the pool for the entirety of the time the pool is empty. Tired of wrestling with it in the spring and fall and was wondering if it would be safe to leave it up all winter. Even if you need a new liner anyway in the spring, do not drain your vinyl pool for the winter. Let us say that you close and open your pool at the recommended time of year. Some people have told me that nothing will happen to the siding of the pool. This would be a costly mistake to make. Concrete pools are strong, and heavy, and typically built durable enough to last 30, 50, 70 or more years in serviceable condition. Wir und unsere Partner nutzen Cookies und ähnliche Technik, um Daten auf Ihrem Gerät zu speichern und/oder darauf zuzugreifen, für folgende Zwecke: um personalisierte Werbung und Inhalte zu zeigen, zur Messung von Anzeigen und Inhalten, um mehr über die Zielgruppe zu erfahren sowie für die Entwicklung von Produkten. The older the liner is, the less plasticizers will remain in the material. O… If you drain an inground vinyl liner pool past the shallow end, more times than not this will require a new liner to repair. The cold winter months are no excuse to let up on pool maintenance. This way, the pool will retain its shape and prevent water spillage on the ground. Yes, you will purchase more chemicals and use more electricity during these months, however, keeping your pool open also forfeits you from purchasing a safety or winter cover. Depending on the quality, grade, and type of cover you purchase, it can easily outweigh the cost of chemicals. We have an Intex 18 x 4 EasySet pool. and if you keep cover drained and clear any snow off you will be fine. Can i leave my frame pool up over winter?? This is particularly true with older liners. SwimmingPoolSteve.com is user-supported. Adjust the Total Alkalinity to the proper level. How To Winterize A Pool Heater Tired of wrestling with it in the spring and fall and was wondering if it would be safe to leave it up all winter. Even with a small amount of force from ground water trying to lift the pool, a concrete pool will not move because it is extremely heavy itself. and the reason why I am so concerned about a question like this is that you are asking a yes or no question...but if you choose the wrong answer then your pool will likely be destroyed over the winter season. They carry everything from chemicals to replacement pumps to entire pool kits, with free shipping options and more "in stock" items than any other Canadian online retailer. Let us also assume that you open your swimming pool and spa in the Spring on April 1. I can not stress enough the importance of using a waterproofing solution for concrete swimming pools. If you have an inground vinyl liner swimming pool, then you have a minimum safe water level that you must observe at all times. 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